Please remove light party restriction on FC workshop

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

In my FC at least, people do the FC crafting here and there in their free time, but no one actually forms a group and crafts together at the same time. People mostly just contribute materials and the officers have to assign the projects and take out the finished products.

It ends up just being a hassle to call in 3 other people to stop whatever they are doing just so I can take out the finished product and put up the next project. Sometimes I want to work on projects for a long period of time but I can't because that would require me to ask 3 other people to stand around and do nothing while I throw materials into the thing.

Long story short is, the restriction doesn't do what I think the developers intended it do (have crafters all join up and make things at the same time together), people at least in my FC do the FC crafting by throwing the materials in the FC chest when they can. The light party restriction just keeps us from getting projects done because it's a hassle to make people go out of their way. I could get a lot more projects done without this restriction.

[crc0427]

I doubt they will do this since it's a group activity.

[Zombiehunter13]

And I agree with the original poster's complaint. People in my FC also focus on a lot of stuff other than crafting.
It would ve great to be able to finish projects without this restriction, for example I wann create a bunch of actions through the workshop, but I can' expect my members to stay there just so I can deliver the items, finish the project and start anew over and over.

[cgbspender]

group activity ? Not quite. Everytime you need 4 crafters inside, you 'd better not be too picky.

"Please crafters needed, even a lvl 1 will do, please sign for a crafting guild, get a tool level 1 and come help"

I agree with zombiehunter and OP too. When I'm into crafting the airship, I can't ask players to stay put until I finish all crafts.

[worldofneil]

I can't ask players to stay put until I finish all crafts.

You don't have to, not exactly anyway. You can craft everything in advance (for all the stages required) and literally just feed them in/progress the stages when you have everyone in the same room. It is frustrating having to get 4 people together, but it's also not been that much hassle as even getting people from linkshells I'm in isn't hard as other people seem to feel that pain and it's not like they really have to do anything. They just need to idle as a level 1+ crafter in the workshop for ~5-10 minutes as you assemble the item.

[cgbspender]

I meant, the whole point of this feature was to "force" people into collaboration, specifically crafters from the Fc's. If we ask random people for help, or get away with crafters lvl 1, what's the point at all in implementing this restriction ?

[Ayerinn]

"Group Activity" = 1 person who cares about the airship along with 3 people AFK inside the workshop that they begged or bribed to be there... I agree, this is a stupid restriction that needs to be removed.

[Travisdy]

As someone with a small FC, I agree with OP. We NEVER work collaboratively on the airship/etc at the same time. We contribute materials all separately and then finish parts all at once (because it's such a pain, waiting around while a part is made). I am usually the one putting the finishing touches on things and feel bad asking people to wait around for 10-15 minutes AFK while I click buttons...

[crc0427]

Not trying to be rude here, but I don't think the issue is having a light party.

So you all don't work on it together. That's fine. But your FC mates can't take 30 seconds to teleport to the house and be in the room to advance the project? Really?

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

Not trying to be rude here, but I don't think the issue is having a light party.

So you all don't work on it together. That's fine. But your FC mates can't take 30 seconds to teleport to the house and be in the room to advance the project? Really?

It's not that they can't. It's that it's a nuisance to everyone involved. People generally are out, you know, playing the game. They are busy in a duty, waiting for the duty finder(which means they would have to lose their place in queue to come do the workshop), or they are otherwise occupied in a party (fates,hunts, etc.) And if they are not involved with any of the above, then they are probably AFK.

Rarely is anyone just standing around doing nothing and readily available to come to FC shop. Yes I can wait for people but the point is I shouldn't have to. Why should I have to inconvenience people in order to just finish the project. Everything is already crafted and turned into the fabricator, but for some reason I need 4 people to be there to press the "done" button ?

It's just silly and unnecessary.

I understand that SE is trying to encourage cooperation among crafters, but this restriction fails to achieve that, so just get rid of it.