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  1. #241
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    Elazu's Avatar
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    Aveira Teleri
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    If I want to DD, I'll go as DD. If I want to tank, I'll go as tank. If I want to heal, I'll go healer.

    If I have time to, I might indulge in throwing some dots out. But I won't have anyone trying to force me to do it.

    You no like, tough. That's your problem not mine. Pay my sub, then tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing.
    I main dps and only want to auto-attack. You can't force me to press any buttons, I pay my sub.
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  2. #242
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilgung View Post
    I could argue by playing inefficiently you should be paying for the sub of the other people you're running with because you're wasting their time.
    Not healing would be playing "inefficiently" - I fail to see how it's wasting people's time.

    But thanks for the input. I'll make sure I take it into account. Memo to self. Must pay people's subs as I heal instead of dealing damage.
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  3. #243
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    Pay my sub, then tell me what I should and shouldn't be doing.
    YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB!
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  4. #244
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elazu View Post
    I main dps and only want to auto-attack. You can't force me to press any buttons, I pay my sub.
    Good for you! Play the way you see fit. It's your account after all.
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  5. #245
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    Aryalandi's Avatar
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    U'semih Gah
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    Sagittarius
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    Bard Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lollerblades View Post
    Not healing would be playing "inefficiently" - I fail to see how it's wasting people's time.

    But thanks for the input. I'll make sure I take it into account. Memo to self. Must pay people's subs as I heal instead of dealing damage.
    Do that and you can be my healer any time, i go with the multi month package, also i require a fantasia every few weeks.

    In seriousness.. if you don't dps that is fine but what is your excuse for being rather obnoxious about it i wonder?
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  6. #246
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Jynx Masamune
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Should a ninja not use trick attack?
    Monk not use mantra?
    Bards should not sing.
    Astrologian should not use their card?
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  7. #247
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    Tilgung's Avatar
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    Raein Tilgung
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Inefficient means not playing to the best of your abilities. technically, I could just spam the Full Thrust combo and we'd clear the dungeon. Eventually. But I'd be doing about 1/3 of my jobs full potential. That's inefficient.

    Not healing at all is being a piece of crap who gets booted from any party I'm part of.

    Frankly, I don't care whether healers DPS or not, I more than make up the difference. But the "MY SUB SO I PLAY MY WAY" bull crap doesn't fly when the other three people are paying subs too.
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  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    Camon... if your healer only wants to heal, thats fine cause they are a healer... pull more mobs then, give them a reason to only heal. Its a dungeon ffs...
    This! When i See as a Tank the healer is sleeping, i switch in dps stance and pull the whole dungeon. Every aoe Class loves me for that and the u See the healer O.O and everybody can do his Job :-D
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  9. #249
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    SaitoHikari's Avatar
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 100
    Probably worth noting that a quick check of the topic starter's profile yields the fact that he/she hasn't really leveled anything but healers past level 50, therefore he/she has yet to experience the fact that tank and DPS damage actually isn't so much higher than a healer's that healer damage contribution is meaningless. From my observations, yeah, for pre-HW content, healer DPS isn't really that good, and we have less emergency heals as well.

    But perhaps healer DPS in Heavensward may be overtuned. I feel there is a MASSIVE jump in healer damage output from 50-60, while other classes may not have gained as much in comparison (in some cases just gaining rotation-extending gimmicks that only really improves their damage output if they manage it properly).

    It's to the point where a well-geared healer in HW content has the potential to out-DPS lesser geared DPS classes when fighting against packs of mobs (or in the case of WHM, contribute so much burst damage that a simple Holy -> Aero III -> Holy -> Assize rotation for me typically does like 30-40% of mob HP, which is nowhere NEAR meaningless). We gained a few instant emergency heals too, which if used effectively, gives us way more time to DPS without having to worry about the tank dying.

    I'm not saying you should always DPS as much as possible as a healer. But if you can do it while making sure no one's at risk of dying, then you absolutely should.
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    Last edited by SaitoHikari; 01-04-2016 at 11:23 AM.

  10. #250
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    Lollerblades's Avatar
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    Aro Foreal
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aryalandi View Post
    Do that and you can be my healer any time, i go with the multi month package, also i require a fantasia every few weeks.

    In seriousness.. if you don't dps that is fine but what is your excuse for being rather obnoxious about it i wonder?
    It's more sarcasm than being obnoxious. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I gave mine. I'm just replying to the more pointed posts.
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