Post Your Healing Horror Stories.

[Immut]

What nonsense.

Believe it or not, not every group of 60s these days is fully outfitted in eso gear/ weapons, and sometimes DPS isn't quite enough to take the chitin down neatly in one go - regardless, it's still more than doable.

Just popping in to say if you can't beat the dps check in bismark EX in i180 your group is garbage. This is a fight tuned to i160 with a minimum entry requirement of i165. It drops i185 gear. It was released before esoterics even existed. You do not need i200 to beat it. If you can't get the chitin down in one go, you won't beat the snakes in time. And even if by some miracle you do, you only get two attempts to kill the corona before the island breaks.

[Fevelle]

What nonsense.

IMO, no, if they can keep aggro and use their cooldowns I'm happy enough. Unless people are trolling or making my job harder (like running into splash damage or taking 3 orbs consecutively while sprinting in A4) I let them play whatever they want. If the healer was healing but not dpsing, let him be, I'd just DPS more instead, since he would be focusing solely on healing.

That's what I would do, in a game where you got to play with all different kinds of people, I find it less stressing to adapt myself into other's playstyle than to try and change their playstyle for a run. But that's just me and just as you have the right to think it's nonsense, I too think that your "doing the bare minimum" idea is nonsense.

[Februs]

If a party needs healer DPS to beat Bis EX with today's equips, yes, your party DPS is TOO low and your co-healer was right.

Just popping in to say if you can't beat the dps check in bismark EX in i180 your group is garbage.

What nonsense. Believe it or not, not every group of 60s these days is fully outfitted in eso gear/ weapons, and sometimes DPS isn't quite enough to take the chitin down neatly in one go

None of you are strictly wrong, but none of you are completely right either.

I first cleared Bismark Extreme when the average item level was 175. So, in that regard, Fevelle and Immut are correct. Any Dps team in Eso sets should have absolutely no reason that they can't clear the chitin without help. Honestly, it shouldn't even be an issue. A Dps team that can't clear it at the current average item level is garbage or lazy. Sadly, this is a common thing. Dps often do not optimize their rolls, and rely on the other Dps to cover for them. It happens all the time, but it doesn't mean that it should. Dps who can't meet checks should never be given a free pass. Tell them to buck up or stop running Extreme level content, because they don't belong there.

That being said, Lunaxia is correct to say that a healer who simply stands there and does nothing instead of helping out is unacceptable. Not Dps'ing when you can (and have absolutely no reason not to) does not mean that you are somehow doing your job "accurately by the description." That is truly nonsense. If Healers were not meant to Dps in certain occasions, then they would not have Dps abilities. They have them so they can use them. In fact, the very first CNJ class quest explains how Dps is fundamental to the job, and that sometimes it is essential to kill things for the sake of the greater good. It's part of the roll, and even SE has outright said it.

Further, when there is literally no damage to heal, what else are you doing? If you have nothing to heal, and you are refusing to Dps, then you're literally doing nothing. You're just standing there. That's sheer laziness. The only time it would be even remotely acceptable is if your MP pool needs time to regen, but if that's the case then you are clearly not doing your job correctly in the first place because you've been wasting mana the whole time. Standing there and doing nothing is just a waste of space in the party. It might fly in casual content, but it is certainly not acceptable at the Extreme or Savage level. If you are not maximizing your roll then you are looking for a carry and don't belong there.

In short, it's the same for Dps as it is for Healers. You can't expect the Dps to optimize their role if you're not willing to do the same in yours. If you're not willing to optimize your role then you shouldn't be running Extreme level content in the first place, because you're holding back the players who are serious. Either step up and give it your all, or get out, pay for a carry, or wait until you can run it unsycn'd.

[Kacho_Nacho]

This was all on me.

I was healing Aurum Vale and the tank marked the morbol fruits for the first boss.

Now, I know this fight. I know that I'm supposed to eat the fruit at 3 stacks.

But we proceeded to wipe five times because I just could not find the fruit with the markers up! Furthermore, I keep getting all turned around because of sensory overload. ((I suffer from fibromyalgia. So, it's easy for me to become disoriented.))

Attempting to locate the correct morbol fruit was like trying to see something in front of the sun while running in circles. I just could not do it. The group breaks up and I feel like the worst healer ever.

Two coffees later, I decided to give it another go but this time with a group of friends. Again, the tank marks the fruit and the same thing happens. At this point, I'm thinking I should turn in my healing badge. *sigh*

Then, one of my friends asks, "Why don't we mark every fruit except the one Kacho has to eat?"

The tank laughed and did what my friend suggested. I find and eat the fruit every time! The boss goes down easily.

The rest of the run goes without incident and the tank remarks at the end that it was the smoothest Aurum Vale run he's ever had.

Healer confidence restored. I just had to have a group willing to work within my limitations.

[cgbspender]

Maybe if you ate the fruit at 2 stacks (the usual strategy, unless you want to spam heals), you would have had more time to look for the fruit ;-)

[VisRalis]

This comes from a different MMO I played years ago, but I think most healers can totally relate to it.

Fk yeah, where I came from!
I miss my chips! XD

Makes me giggle to end whenever I see it.

[raela]

I was healing Aurum Vale and the tank marked the morbol fruits for the first boss.

I have never seen anyone mark the fruit in AV.. it's always been people taking the closest without a word/issue.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Maybe if you ate the fruit at 2 stacks (the usual strategy, unless you want to spam heals), you would have had more time to look for the fruit ;-)

The original party discussed going two stacks but the tank was concerned the fruit would not respawn back in time. I have done the fight both ways.

I have never seen anyone mark the fruit in AV. it's always been people taking the closest without a word/issue.

*nods* That's how I've always done it. I was surprised to encounter back to back groups who insisted the fruit had to be marked.

[Ghishlain]

We discussed that, but to tell you the truth, the groups were concerned the fruit would not respawn back in time. I'll do two fruits next time.

When AV was first released at 2.0, you would generally wait till 3 before eating it as the respawn period was longer. They made a change some time early in the 2.X cycle to adjust the timer so eating at two stacks is perfectly fine now

[Kacho_Nacho]

When AV was first released at 2.0, you would generally wait till 3 before eating it as the respawn period was longer. They made a change some time early in the 2.X cycle to adjust the timer so eating at two stacks is perfectly fine now

Great to know! Thank you and cgbspender!