In NA, FFXI released one year after it did in JP

[DNO]

after 1.19 the combat system will still suck, thats a big part of an mmo. it prob wont be fixed til 1.21.

Combat does not suck thats your opinion.

[Kobushi]

Combat does not suck thats your opinion.

if combat didn't suck they wouldn't have plans to fix it and battle regiments would still be around next month

[Gidonoidon_Sur]

if combat didn't suck they wouldn't have plans to fix it and battle regiments would still be around next month

Play Rift (a popular MMO) and then play FFXIV. In my opinion, you are insane if you think Rift combat is better. Insert any other popular mmo in Rift's place and its the same result. Furthermore, is there any other game (beside XI) that has skillchain/battle regimens? Also, we will be getting chain bonuses soon. I think FFXIV combat is very good relative to the competition.

[Kobushi]

Play Rift (a popular MMO) and then play FFXIV. In my opinion, you are insane if you think Rift combat is better. Insert any other popular mmo in Rift's place and its the same result. Furthermore, is there any other game (beside XI) that has skillchain/battle regimens? Also, we will be getting chain bonuses soon. I think FFXIV combat is very good relative to the competition.

Well i can't talk much about other mmos such as rift since i only have 3 mmo's experiences, FFXI and FFXIV and ragnarok online, never played anything else. and i'm not gonna be comparing other games battle systems... i'm just gonna talk about my personal experience. FFXI battle system was fun and FFXIV is boring, skill spam says it all and no strategy so far besides the old "hit and heal till it falls" didn't matter what mob i fought so far. Anyway it's just my opinion, maybe it's fun for you i don't care really...

[DNO]

Well i can't talk much about other mmos such as rift since i only have 3 mmo's experiences, FFXI and FFXIV and ragnarok online, never played anything else. and i'm not gonna be comparing other games battle systems... i'm just gonna talk about my personal experience. FFXI battle system was fun and FFXIV is boring, skill spam says it all and no strategy so far besides the old "hit and heal till it falls" didn't matter what mob i fought so far. Anyway it's just my opinion, maybe it's fun for you i don't care really...

Id rather have skill spam then wait 5 mins then WS.. then AA for another 5 mins then WS.

FF11 was fun for its time.. but i rather me to be more involved like ff14 is currently. i like having skills to use thats fun.

[Ava]

Play Rift (a popular MMO) and then play FFXIV. In my opinion, you are insane if you think Rift combat is better. Insert any other popular mmo in Rift's place and its the same result. Furthermore, is there any other game (beside XI) that has skillchain/battle regimens? Also, we will be getting chain bonuses soon. I think FFXIV combat is very good relative to the competition.

SE has some of the best ideas for their MMOs, but they fail at implementation. Their ideas with FFXIV are awesome and I doubt anyone would argue that. But throw in problems with controls, UI lag, etc then they don't look as good. I feel like when people say something like "FFXIV combat sucks", they are talking about issues with targetting, engaging, controls, action lag, etc and not the concept of combat itself.

[Neptune]

SE has some of the best ideas for their MMOs, but they fail at implementation. Their ideas with FFXIV are awesome and I doubt anyone would argue that. But throw in problems with controls, UI lag, etc then they don't look as good. I feel like when people say something like "FFXIV combat sucks", they are talking about issues with targetting, engaging, controls, action lag, etc and not the concept of combat itself.

Thanks for bringing some sense into the equation!

[DNO]

if combat didn't suck they wouldn't have plans to fix it and battle regiments would still be around next month

right so the battle sucked BEFORE patch 1.18.

thats the point of changing to AA because pressing 11111111 sucked. this does not. IMO

[Kobushi]

right so the battle sucked BEFORE patch 1.18.

thats the point of changing to AA because pressing 11111111 sucked. this does not. IMO

Even tho many people asked for it, i didnt say AA was what was lacking in combat or that it came to save the whole battle system, it was a minor improvement at best, it let's you chat while hitting if that's something you need doing i guess

[DNO]

Even tho many people asked for it, i didnt say AA was what was lacking in combat or that it came to save the whole battle system, it was a minor improvement at best, it let's you chat while hitting if that's something you need doing i guess

good so we agree its a better system.

It is also a not finished battle system. To judge now would be silly but its pretty clear most people like where its headed.