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    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    It's about occupancy and changing the system, not sentimental reasoning. If you're not going to add a member limit or login requirement then it is a useless idea in the first place and more selfish reasoning to add more wards/ housing.
    With 5 members we'd be able to make enough lame sprout alts to bypass the arbitrary number, so it achieves nothing anyway.

    People shouldn't have to be forced into big FC's just to get the benefit of FC housing.

    The current system is 1 personal house + 1 FC house per account. 6 alts can be used to hold a FC house each with no level requirement, this will essentially do nothing if the system does get changed to FC housing only and has absolutely no impact. People can still buy up whole wards with alts + personal FCs, nothing gets changed, people will still have no housing and no way to deter the current problem.
    Part of the current problem is that you aren't limited to 1 personal house and 1 FC house per account, but I honestly think it should be. Right now it's on a per character basis but there's no real reason to have several alts with houses. It'd be better if they set it up so that all of your alts could share the same house and only allowed one of each type per account, period.

    Same with 1 account per service account, people will buy housing with $5 codes, it's not difficult to get access.
    Can trial accounts or accounts in their first 30 days actually buy housing? I wouldn't think they'd be able to.

    You should at least have to pay a sub to purchase housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    With 5 members we'd be able to make enough lame sprout alts to bypass the arbitrary number, so it achieves nothing anyway.

    People shouldn't have to be forced into big FC's just to get the benefit of FC housing.
    That's the problem in a nutshell isn't it? We have housing for enough people on most servers (I wouldn't know about high popularity ones like Gilgamesh) but people want their OWN housing for their OWN group of friends. People come and go in their small friendship groups but still demand a house for their period of game time.

    It's the same as the problem in real life, we want our own needs and our own desired fulfilled whilst stepping on everyone else around us as long as we're satisfied and feeling entitled.

    There are so many houses on my server with individual FCs/ private housing and the wards are essentially dead leaving it only to be used as a silent crafting area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MihaelB View Post
    That's the problem in a nutshell isn't it? We have housing for enough people on most servers (I wouldn't know about high popularity ones like Gilgamesh) but people want their OWN housing for their OWN group of friends. People come and go in their small friendship groups but still demand a house for their period of game time.
    Even with your arbitrary limitation in place, there still wouldn't be enough housing to go around on my server and several others. You talk about people "coming and going" with small friendship groups, but my small FC has been active nonstop since it was founded in May 2014. We were able to get housing when it was plentiful and have gotten tons of use out of it in the year and a half since then. I say this as someone that owns both an FC house and a personal house - the single biggest problem with housing right now is personal housing being combined with FC housing. That's where SE went wrong. Having to have a rank 6 FC at least provided some kind of gating. What we need now is a limit on how many houses any one person can own per account.

    It's the same as the problem in real life, we want our own needs and our own desired fulfilled whilst stepping on everyone else around us as long as we're satisfied and feeling entitled.

    There are so many houses on my server with individual FCs/ private housing and the wards are essentially dead leaving it only to be used as a silent crafting area.
    No, I just think that there's got to be better ways of going about it than having an arbitrary membership requirement for FC's.
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