Does SE want to us go back to WoW? Because this is how you lose MORE players to WoW.

[KaitlanKela]

Ditto what everyone else said.

It's optional, meaning specifically that you could finish all the MSQ, level 60 and expert without it. The casual raid doesn't require it. SAVAGE doesn't even require it because obviously people cleared without it. If "being mediocre" = only having your gear 99% optimized, I don't know if I can help you. Either it's worth it to you or it isn't, don't expect it to be handed to you.

I DO agree that the weapons are a little lack-luster for the amount of grind and SPECIFICALLY the crafting element. For someone like me who has only recently subbed and even more recently gotten to 60 with NO crafters and less than 1mil gil, I would be playing for months alone for that crafting element. Either by grinding the gil OR leveling the crafters (and even then I'd have to have gil it seems). Regardless, you won't hear me complaining about it because if it's not worth it I will get the i200 and just wait for the rest of it. Eventually I'll git gud and it's be nerfed and we'll meet halfway and OMG that wasn't so hard now was it?

It's only when you slam your face against it because NOW that it's a giant PITA

[Lambdafish]

Regardless, you won't hear me complaining about it because if it's not worth it I will get the i200 and just wait for the rest of it. Eventually I'll git gud and it's be nerfed and we'll meet halfway and OMG that wasn't so hard now was it?

My main issue with this is that this is what happened to me with the 2.x relic. I really liked the 2.x relic quest all except for atma, and the problem was that because this was the first step, I was horribly behind by the time that I actually was able to complete the quest (I was in the camp of very poor RNG end), and I got to the nexus stage just as HW launched, again I was shafted because this stage would have been perfect pre HW, but with HW I struggled to gather light because nobody was doing the content, up until 3.1. And while I did get my zeta before anima, the entire situation with the first stage of the relic affected my entire journey. I can see this happening again with the crafted items, and its hugely demotivating.

[KaitlanKela]

And while I did get my zeta before anima, the entire situation with the first stage of the relic affected my entire journey. I can see this happening again with the crafted items, and its hugely demotivating.

The crafting does suck. I get they're trying to encourage more crafting but the amount of crafting necessary to contribute to this is overwhelming for someone who hasn't had the opportunity to level crafters yet, like me. And even then it's not like you can do it all yourself. That's impossible. I won't defend the crafting.

However I don't see it messing up the rythym of future quests. Mainly because the market will regulate soon, the prices will drop and that will constitute the nerf. I'm sure people with level 50 crafters that just haven't bothered since june will see this and be like...hey hey, increase supply, price drops. Price of future crafts drop as well, because more crafters. They may even nerf after that by making the items drop from something. We'll see if it works out that way. Anyway, we shouldn't be more than one step behind the entire process and frankly that's the effort-efficient place to be. >.<

[Zophar]

I was shafted because this stage would have been perfect pre HW, but with HW I struggled to gather light because nobody was doing the content, up until 3.1.

Actually, I found gathering light was even easier post 3.0. They nerfed light gathering requirements so much that it was actually really easy to do by unsync soloing Tam tara, and Sastasha low level. The Mahatma light farming phase took me just slightly over 2 hours to finish. I can't blame you for not knowing that trick in time. I never would have thought of it had I not been listening in on a conversation within my FC.

[Blitzace]

Honestly i don't see the problem with relic, Finished mine yesterday, could've finished a week ago if i didn't play so much RB6 lately lol.
Did my daily's everyday, All beast tribes and farmed some alex. Didn't even focus on it much due to being on RB6 so much.

Only thing i find a little bit meh is the crafting part, As i see people struggle for a few hundred k. On my server you'll be paying around 900k-1.5kk for one set of items.
But like i said before, i honestly hope they bring something more fun to the table than the standard farm X amount of items or light or what ever.

I actually enjoyed re-running the old dungeons, I think it would've been more fun if they would made those dungeon (for relic) synced + IL synced to the bare minimum.

[Drunklotus]

If you love WOW soo much then play it. Don't whine over the differences in a game a make them all out to be bad ones. Its different from the way WOW does it, but they are different MMOs. Also as many people have said, ITS OPTIONAL! If you're serious about high level game play then get gear through high level. Many people do Anima JUST FOR GLAMOUR, because as we all know the anima weapons are shiny shiny shiny.