Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
the trouble with the relic is tie to the raid, the trouble is to gate all the challenge behind raid, if they had added another type of endgame to 4-24 player it will be easier to ask people to do a endgame challenge for finish it.

me my main concern about ff14 is the fact that the game don't offer any option into endgame, it's raid or raid.
How can they make something challenging and not require a dedicated practice group to do it. I don't know what standards you have, but if something can be cleared in the first day it was released, then it's not challenging.