My AST card strategy.

[ruskie]

If ur prebuffing before pull ur doing it all wrong and wasting precious seconds of extra dps, i already scream at dumbass tanks blowing all cooldowns then run to boss... If ur doing this ur doing it wrong

I throw spear as sooon as the tank use there throw skill... If u already prebuffed before that well u loose out simple as that

Actually no it's correct - when the top theorycrafters give you that:
http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

Hawk's, b4b, raging, empy(should hit when tank hits)

And from another one:
4s prepull : (Quelling Strikes) (Battle Voice) (Hawk's Eye) (Blood for Blood) (Raging Strikes)

So yes spear should be up before tank pulls else it's wasted.

And there are others to prebuff as well - why people are using pull timers 15s for nin, 12 or 10s for bard, 7s for sch/smn(I guess mnk as well for their cycling through forms) - most work with 5s though.

[amihavingfunyet]

If ur prebuffing before pull ur doing it all wrong and wasting precious seconds of extra dps, i already scream at dumbass tanks blowing all cooldowns then run to boss... If ur doing this ur doing it wrong

I throw spear as sooon as the tank use there throw skill... If u already prebuffed before that well u loose out simple as that

I guess you have no idea how the Bard opener works, feel free to educate yourself. http://angered.guildwork.com/forum/t...ide-by-krietor

Edit: Maybe should have refreshed before posting (Oops!).

[Seryl199]

About the AoE effect I noticed to Spread a card before getting the expanded effect is better else I waste in the end either my expanded on a Bole or something other not useful or just discard a ton cards before getting Arrow/Balance maybe Spear...

Definitely agree with this strategy. Once I have a card on Spread I can hunt for the RR I need (1/3 odds of hitting it), and failing that, I can hand out the card unbuffed then RR or hand out the less than ideal draw. With Expanded RR, my odds are still 1/3 for an ideal Arrow or Balance draw, but I have less play with bad draws. I've already decided what cards are useful for my RR and have to hope for a solid Shuffle or hope I'm not forced to Spread a crummy draw. Setting up combos isn't bad, minimizing your exposure to RNG while in the heat of battle is the tough stuff.

[Yhisa]

Yawn... Theorycrafters ... Require perfect timing on everything for it to work... Sorry guys but ur not that perfect as u must add human error ... To pull of theorycrafter numbers or dps u would require to hit everything perfect and flawlessly , this is why i do not follow the theorycrafting way not more like a sheep ... They always get puzzeled or shocked when a player does more dps then then without doing the optimal rotation hell my smn friend is rank 5th world wide on as2 or as3 cant remember which one but hes 2nd eu... And he does not even follow the thoerycrafters xD

[Yhisa]

I really need to stay away from these forums D:

[amihavingfunyet]

I really need to stay away from these forums D:

Yes please, stay away with your opinions.
It's nothing new nor hard to pull off. Maybe you should get Bard to 60 or at least 50 before you try to talk about a class you obviously don't understand.

[TatoRazzino]

The (AoE) Spear pre-pull is very good. It's simple to use: ask your party members when they're going to blow their CDs in relation to the coundown in the pull macro. it lasts for 20s, and if everyone is using cooldowns at around 7s, you just use it at 10. You'll get 10 seconds of the Spear pre-pull to buff everyone that pre-uses some cooldowns and you'll also get the cooldowns that are burned before. Nothing hard to do.

[TatoRazzino]

As for using cards with the AoE effect, I learned that it depends. Expanding an Arrow may be good, but there are situations in which I prefer to use an Enhanced one (+50%) in a single player because they're doing way more damage than everyone else.

[Yhisa]

Yes please, stay away with your opinions.
It's nothing new nor hard to pull off. Maybe you should get Bard to 60 or at least 50 before you try to talk about a class you obviously don't understand.

Or stop checking out my char... Because this is my 3rd character been bard @ 50 in 2.0 so u know gtfo my char xD?

[Ghishlain]

I'm not incredibly knowledgeable about DPS rotations, but is arrow really ideal if you have a DRG in your party? I know they have a very strict rotation and try to stick with about 590 SkS. I don't know how much of an issue Arrow would be for them though (I do know that they try to avoid DoT clipping). I guess this could be argued for all dps though..

Pardon my ignorance. Lol

I'll just answer this one quickly as well since I love DPSing on DRG and love optimizing it, though I'm no where near what would be considered a main-DRG.

If TP isn't an issue, DRGs can make incredible use of Arrow as you can burn through your rotation faster and thus maintain Blood of the Dragon easier and allowing for an additional burst via Geirskogul. DRGs already have a small issue clipping their DoTs at 2.4s GCD but if you reverse the rotation after getting Arrow (so go from ID combo into two TT combos before going back to ID combo), you'll have your DoTs / Debuffs fall off (napkin math here! - 32.4s for 15GCDs at 2.40s * 0.9 = 2.16s GCDs) for only 2.4s before reapplication, so it's not a bad trade off in my mind.

Like I said, I'm not a DRG expert at all but I do like the idea of getting an Arrow on DRG a lot when I'm not eating through TP like candy. lol.