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    WolfKid's Avatar
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    Evan White
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70

    My AST card strategy.

    So ive been playing AST a lot, after a while i started changing how i get my cards used. This is a strategy i use during 8-man content.

    I ALWAYS value the AoE effect over the others. I wanted my buffs to act like Fey Wind. Cause, i believe a 5% party buff is better that giving a 10-15% buff to just 1 member. I AoE mostly Balance, Arrow, Bole is a bit situational, not exactly sure about the Spear, and sometimes the Spire. I don't AoE Ewer cause the potency's to weak to make a difference. Usually if i have a card like Balance but no AoE up, i put it in the Spread, so when i do get the AoE, i can use it immediately. Otherwise i just give the card i draw to whoever necessary till i get my AoE up.

    That's pretty much it. I've been able to tolerate the RNG with this, most of the time it works in my favor.
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  2. #2
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    Jamillion's Avatar
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Yeah, that's pretty much standard strat in full parties
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    SnugglesD's Avatar
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    Snuggles Doombringer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Pretty good strategy, just remember not to waste too many draws trying to set up the perfect combo. Its often better to throw up an unbuffed card than to go 3 draws with nothing.
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I'm not incredibly knowledgeable about DPS rotations, but is arrow really ideal if you have a DRG in your party? I know they have a very strict rotation and try to stick with about 590 SkS. I don't know how much of an issue Arrow would be for them though (I do know that they try to avoid DoT clipping). I guess this could be argued for all dps though..

    Pardon my ignorance. Lol
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 12-28-2015 at 03:41 AM.

  5. #5
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    WolfKid's Avatar
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    Evan White
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    I'm not incredibly knowledgeable about DPS rotations, but is arrow really ideal if you have a DRG in your party? I know they have a very strict rotation and try to stick with about 590 SkS. I don't know how much of an issue Arrow would be for them though (I do know that they try to avoid DoT clipping).

    Pardon my ignorance. Lol
    I actually had an issue during A1S where a DRG didnt want Arrow cause it would mess up his rotation, i guess the change would mess with his muscle memory.
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by WolfKid View Post
    I actually had an issue during A1S where a DRG didnt want Arrow cause it would mess up his rotation, i guess the change would mess with his muscle memory.
    Yeah, that's what I've seen DRG say. I do know BLM generally love Arrow, especially if they can get another Fire IV out lol
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 12-28-2015 at 03:53 AM.

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    Nexas Uthenera
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 61
    Healer main here.
    but when ever I play as a bard, i always ask the AST to throw me the spear when ever they don't need to burn it.
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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Character
    Susubi Subi
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Me personally just does this

    Spear = Ninja >mech >bard >smn/drg
    (Ninja got most gcds +ninjitsu also u can throw spear on urself or on tanks before a tank buster hits)

    Balance = all dps jobs

    Arrow = black mage, white mage, urself
    (Do not give to any other dps as it cause them issues with rotation or burn tp too fast)

    Bole = throw to tanks

    Spire = ninja > tanks > mnk/drg/brd/mech
    (Ninja is first due to goad which he can throw to tanks or dps)

    Ewer = urself, healers, bard, tanks
    (Brd if hes using foe and there is more casters in party , tanks just for more flashes but be careful with dark if he got darkside on)

    For AoE effect spear > balance at start of fight at it lowers everyone cooldowns after that u either spread balance or bole depending on the fight for a nuke phase or reduce party damage taken
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  9. #9
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    For AoE effect spear > balance at start of fight at it lowers everyone cooldowns after that u either spread balance or bole depending on the fight for a nuke phase or reduce party damage taken
    As a Bard I'll take balance, spear, arrow, spire(if you don't need it), ewer(if you don't need it).

    But remember for spear - some jobs prebuff at like 2-5s pre pull so should have spear up by then - not at pull - my CDs are already gone by that point and will do nothing for me.
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    Nazreen Eby
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Be careful an Ewer on a DRK using Darkside won't have any effect so generally I rather Royal Road than throw on tank.
    About the AoE effect I noticed to Spread a card before getting the expanded effect is better else I waste in the end either my expanded on a Bole or something other not useful or just discard a ton cards before getting Arrow/Balance maybe Spear...

    About prebuffing even as SCH/AST I prebuff the party at 3s pullmacro because of server delays and that I can start DPS rotation :O
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