[GM] Please take notice. Make statement on housing.

[Nicobo]

As mentioned in this thread referenced in the OP, I had a thread removed by mods for attempting to sell a Medium Goblet house.

I am triple confuse now.
If WTS/WTB house/FC is not allowed, why Mod say nothing when ppl saying it is allowed and GM will even help to enforce such "user agreement" ? ^^;

I will not be confuse if Mod always say nothing, but sometime Mod will reply to some posts not really important,
so I will think no response means no problem....

[Warlyx]

EQ2, a MMO that's over a decade old now, has provided every character with at least a small "apartment" from day 1. Over time they improved on it,and now every player can own up to 25 houses, of varying sizes. 25 per character... no restrictions... in a game built around hardware that's considered obsolete now. The flexibility and creativity a house in EQ2 allows is amazing.

Eq2 housing has added even plots loonng time ago , islands and what not so u can create anything u want , plus guild halls of course

example:

http://archive.eq2wire.com/showthread.php?t=506744

[Preypacer]

Eq2 housing has added even plots loonng time ago , islands and what not so u can create anything u want , plus guild halls of course

Yep, it's extremely expansive, and flexible. A guild-mate of mine when I was playing had a few houses, all linked together via portals. Was pretty awesome.

[Alberel]

I haven't read through the entire thread but I think a distinction needs to be made here.

There are some players who bought a house, made good use of it, and now wish to sell it in order to buy another plot elsewhere or simply have no further wish to own a house. These players are faced with a 45 day wait if they want to get 80% of their gil back, or they can attempt to sell to another player, likely for more gil AND much faster. These players have not done anything disruptive and selling their plot to another player actually puts it back on the market quicker than waiting 45 days for the auto-demolish.

Then there are the players buying up multiple houses SOLELY to resell them at a huge markup. These players are being hugely disruptive as their greed is driving them to monopolize a severely limited finite resource, denying other players access to this resource, with the sole intent of driving up prices and then reselling.

Until recently SE has never really taken any kind of aggressive stance on players selling houses; people have advertised it on the PF and even on these forums with no repercussions. It's only since a number of players bought DOZENS of houses with the sole intent to resell them that we seem to be seeing a change in stance from the GMs.

SE can't really make selling houses against the ToS until they give players a way to get the gil back from their house when they relinquish the land at ANY time. Having to wait 45 days to get any gil back from your plot effectively encourages players to sell the land to other players. From what I'm seeing here it isn't actually the act of selling the house that is against the ToS anyway. It's the act of BUYING a house just to deny other players and resell it.

[Warlyx]

Yep, it's extremely expansive, and flexible. A guild-mate of mine when I was playing had a few houses, all linked together via portals. Was pretty awesome.

yup for me the best housing by far, accessible to every1 (free house at lvl 10? small but free), and u can buy prestige houses later on that go from Mansion , Tower of mage, refugee island, Opera....and even a ship in the middle of the ocean ! , + customizable , even looks like the added a Layout Editor so u can create anything.



u can turn weather on / off even :P

[Lexia]

SE can't really make selling houses against the ToS until they give players a way to get the gil back from their house when they relinquish the land at ANY time. Having to wait 45 days to get any gil back from your plot effectively encourages players to sell the land to other players. From what I'm seeing here it isn't actually the act of selling the house that is against the ToS anyway. It's the act of BUYING a house just to deny other players and resell it.

I could see a person saying ok I paid 5 million for this small house, give me 5 million to give it up but no they want like 50 million gil or some crazy number like that.

[rarecandi]

You would think with how much this has been talked about in the last few days that SE or someone would make an official statement. Please look forward to it ...??

[saberchic]

SE can't really make selling houses against the ToS until they give players a way to get the gil back from their house when they relinquish the land at ANY time. Having to wait 45 days to get any gil back from your plot effectively encourages players to sell the land to other players. From what I'm seeing here it isn't actually the act of selling the house that is against the ToS anyway. It's the act of BUYING a house just to deny other players and resell it.

How would that deter anybody from selling their house? Seems to me someone can extort money from a person or FC that wants a house (for an outrageous price) and then get paid AGAIN when they release it.

The housing system is being super abused right now. I am looking forward to more wards becoming available so that the people who are trying to sell plots for outrageous sums of money can't do it any more.

[Preypacer]

yup for me the best housing by far, accessible to every1 (free house at lvl 10? small but free), and u can buy prestige houses later on that go from Mansion , Tower of mage, refugee island, Opera....and even a ship in the middle of the ocean ! , + customizable , even looks like the added a Layout Editor so u can create anything.

u can turn weather on / off even :P

Indeed. I always enjoyed having all the pets wandering around and interacting with each other, too.

[HakaseNyan]

I believe the "against the ToS" only works when you cannot guarantee the deal. If you say you're selling just the house, then the details are vague. You cannot guarantee (100%) the trade of your home to another person. If you put up something like "Pay me ten million for me to relinquish my land" it would be something you could guarantee.

However, what about selling a free company? If you sold a Free Company, with housing, that IS a deal you could guarantee.