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  1. #11
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    After leveling MCH I kinda wish they would add an option to hide the gauss effect on the gun models if you wanted to because I personally think it makes all the guns look ugly :/

    Just an aesthetic toggle, if you wanted it shown you just got to re-enable the option or something.
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  2. #12
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    Amiaze's Avatar
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    Genevieve Mhakaracca
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    I really would like to see a post mortem report on what happened to MCH, similar to what we got with FFXIII when SE admitted it made some mistakes with it.

    So far, our list of MCH grievances includes:

    -Being the only DPS with no self-healing ability
    -Visually unappealing casting animations that would fit better on a magic-wielding class
    -Lack of aesthetic changes present on BRD (the quiver changes with the bow, but your aetherotransformer does not change with your gun)
    -Lack of Gauss Barrel hide/glamour options
    -Having (arguably and invariably) the lowest DPS output
    -Functioning like a (arguably) lesser BRD despite being a brand new job


    I'm fairly certian that MCH underwent drastic fundamental design changes well into its development, and I'm wondering if this isn't the reason it wasn't shown the same love and attention as other classes/jobs.
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  3. #13
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Amiaze View Post
    I'm fairly certian that MCH underwent drastic fundamental design changes well into its development, and I'm wondering if this isn't the reason it wasn't shown the same love and attention as other classes/jobs.
    This is my biggest gripe with MCH. They had such good concepts in regards to attachments, ammounition and turret usage. Instead, they scrapped all of that and what we have now is teh final product. Plays extremely similiar to 2.0 BRD due to instant casts on GB (which pretty much defeats the point of it), ammounition becomes an oGCD you use on cooldown rather than timed usages, due to the flat potency increase AND tp recover, and the novelty of gauss barrel being an "attachment" is lost the moment they gave WM, a skill is exactly, functionally the same as GB, to Bard. And that last bit ends up homogenizing the two jobs even moreso than any other job within the same role (tanks, melee, caster, healer) in the game.
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  4. #14
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    This gun right here is really making me consider picking up mch as my dps alt outside of war/drk. It's a crying shame about the barrel though and maybe if enough people complain they will do something. At the very least, align it so it's centered and at the most, have it invisible when effects are reduced similar to how Darkside for DRK works. While this in itself presents other problems or personal preference for other players, I would personally prefer to have the Gauss Barrel off as I find it very ugly.
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  5. #15
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 81
    This weapon would be cool with an additional effect like:

    "Every attack now hits 3x with each hit doing 33.34%(-34%) of the original attack. DoTs and Buffs only apply once."

    Barely a dps increase, just aesthetically pleasing.
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    Last edited by Houston009; 12-24-2015 at 04:14 PM.

  6. #16
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    Airget's Avatar
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    Airget Lamh
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    Eh, the issue is Gauss Barrel and even the device on the side of the Machinist aren't unique per weapon because they are technology given to you during the job quest.

    Pretty much the logic is, Gauss Barrel is one size fits all as is the device, this is different from quivers because a quiver isn't a unique piece of technology that was specifically designed for Machinist.

    A Gauss Barrel is given to you, so it's not a magic piece of tech that molds into a new form based on the weapon you were using, that could suggest that each weapon would be designed with a unique Gauss Barrel attachment but in all honesty that would be illogical/waste of funds to not create tech that was one size fits all.

    So yea it kinda sucks but it is lore wise however finishing the MCH questline I think it is reasonable to say that they may find a way to add in a quest that allows you to customize the look of your Gauss Barrel much like they plan to introduce glamour for summoner pets. Mean it could be a goofy quest where the Leader of the MCH guild is thinking of ways to encourage people to join and he comes up with an idea to allow people to customize the look of the Gauss Barrel cause some people might not like the fashion clashing with the gun they are using, so you are sent on a quest to get mats to test the efficiency and ease of creating a new Gauss Barrel that can be easily customized without losing the efficiency of it's ability lol.
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  7. #17
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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Oh yeah. In canon MCHs are losers who don't actually make their own stuff. And despite being the world saving WoL, the story tries to make you the kalashnikovian everyman.

    Still incredibly dumb.
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  8. #18
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeykama View Post
    The Gauss Barrel is centered on the top barrel only because it's based on the Gatling gun. The three barrels rotate just like a machine gun - only the currently topmost barrel will fire the shell while the other two barrels are in a state of automated reloading. In addition, multiple barrels set up like this allows each barrel to cool off faster which in RL allows a faster rate of fire.

    If the Barrel were centered (assuming it works to magnetically increase the velocity of bullets passing through it or whatever the magical equivalent is), the bullet would do some crazy bad physics. So while it looks weird, it's because it's based on how a gun like that would actually fire.
    Take a look at the ferdinand and get back to me on the realism. This is a game and one of the most important MCH weapons in the game looks dumb because of what appears to be a design flaw. I highly doubt the realism of the barrels rotation was thought out when designing this weapon.
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  9. #19
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    On top of that, rationalizing that it only fires out of the top barrel is a weak justification for ruining the symmetry of the gun in the first place, because there are plenty of other guns with multiple barrels where gauss barrel is positioned at the common center instead of directly in front of one barrel.

    Ferdinand for example is double barreled - and regardless of whether only one or two barrels fire at the same time, none of them will pass directly through the center of gauss barrel attachment. This means that even if you want to take in-game physics seriously for some reason, there are no problems with bullets passing through gauss barrel off-center for the sake of aesthetics.

    Considering the time investment linked to our anima weapon, this is a very serious and disappointing issue for the gun to have.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 12-24-2015 at 07:04 PM.

  10. #20
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    meldon90's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Eien Lightspark
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 63
    I use this gun as glamour:



    Its a shame that i have to put the gauss barrel on it, it just ruins it.

    They should add something to hide it, i mean the barrel.
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