Apparently someone in the JPN servers has completed their Animus relic!

[Whiteprincess]

So lucky im still trying to get my 1st crystal since day one ><

[Reilyn]

2.0 was the start of the game SE knew people didn't have lots of gill and crafts to depend on, so they made the 1st steps easy, and as you already seen it branced off to higher relics which got more tedious. Not a good example.

1.0 was the start of the game.

2.0 Had players from 1.0 as well as newcomers

3.0 had players from 2.0 as well as far more newcomers

That's not a valid excuse as to why they haven't made 2.0 relic a grind. Also, the roots of the 2.0 relic requirements were from before AAR. Your defense is weak.

Yea, hopefully SE will magicly change the entire relic quest asap

They actually don't have to.

Despite your beliefs that people who complain have no better alternatives for the current grind, I've posted an idea in a different thread. In short, it takes after the 2.0 relic: people who can do content that qualifies as a challenge, but fair for most of the community, such as thordan ex/a1s/a2s can get through the 3rd step of their relic quest done quickly. If this was released between 3.0, and alexander normal's release, I'd put bismark ex, and ravana ex up there too.

The option of the grinds can remain there to satisfy the people who can't do the content for whatever reasons.

And all they'd have to do is add a few items to the drop tables for each encounter. No quest context rewriting required.

Meanwhile, all you've brought to the discussion so far is 'shut up and deal with it you whiny babies'.

didn't shoot my self in the foot do you even understand half of what you say, Not agreeing with you does not mean a person shot them self in the foot.

Providing a person with the ammo to counter you is effectively shooting yourself in the foot.

its easy to throw random words like this out when you feel defeated and unable to come up with a logical, reasonable explination as to why you are complaining.

1: I have provided reasonable explanations as to why people are complaining. Multiple times, literally one page ago. You are now pretending I haven't, and insist there's nothing more to the complaints other than 'it's too long'.
2: The only defeat I feel is from investing the time to post to you, when you ignore reason.

You've long since lost the right to do any 'holier than thou' posts.

[WinterLuna]

You should look up some articles about Japan's problem with shut-ins, and see that it is very much the opposite of "fine". I am just showing concern for the well-being for anyone who would do this to themselves. It is not jealousy or judgment; this frightens me.

Your post made it seem that way, so apologies, but fair enough. I admit it's a little extreme but again it's not for us to judge them. As another player said too, although it's against the rules someone else could have been playing the same character.

[Valkyrie-Amber]

ok I have decided I need this 210 relic yesterday.... time to grind my brains out running alex....

[Kallera]

Your post made it seem that way, so apologies, but fair enough. I admit it's a little extreme but again it's not for us to judge them. As another player said too, although it's against the rules someone else could have been playing the same character.

Are you sure? It got announced, so clearly someone is viewing this as an achievement in some way, and others are extending to say that there is nothing wrong with the quests' demands.

It is an achievement, and there's no doubt there's going to be talk of this player far and wide. But even in the lens of cultural differences between japan and na, there is a concern for that level of dedication over a video game. There is a blurry line between dedication and addiction.

[SchalaZeal]

it's actually that the majority of players (with the exception of this random Japanese nobody that apparently has plenty of time on his hands) will still be holding onto the i200 version, working on the i210, when all the i215-225 stuff gets released.

Just beastmen and poetics + law from running expert and lv 60 and lv 50 roulettes is 6 weeks. If you add one map a day, you make this less, possibly down to 4 weeks (but drop isn't 100%). If you grind some alex NM, even less. 6 weeks is before 3.2.

[WinterLuna]

Are you sure? It got announced, so clearly someone is viewing this as an achievement in some way, and others are extending to say that there is nothing wrong with the quests' demands.

But even in the lens of cultural differences between japan and na, there is a concern for that level of dedication over a video game. There is a blurry line between dedication and addiction.

Its not our place to question whether someone is addicted to the game and even if it was we don't know this person personally and there's nothing we can do about it.

This could be the first time this person has ever continously played the game for hours. Likely? Probably not. But at the end of the day, it's not our business. I say congratulations to the person and if they are addicted, then hopefully they will seek help for that.

[Airget]

So lucky im still trying to get my 1st crystal since day one ><

Am curious to know how long been farming for, though this did just give me an idea that could help alleviate the RNG of farming these crystals.

They could add something like an "Empty Crystal" to the game that you could set to x element to gather a certain element from doing x FATE, only able to carry 1 at a time and let's say it would cost 100 Allied Notes, 5k GC seals, 200 poetics, 100 laws etc. But basically the idea could be you could talk to an NPC in x zone and they will allow you the ability to infuse that Crystals with the proper element. Then you do FATEs as normal with the xp going towards the Crystal, then once you complete the Crystal you trade it back to the NPC for the element and let's say maybe it takes 10-15 FATEs to get 1 crystal in this manner but while you are doing it you can still get the crystal to drop. At least this way when people are farming that first part they don't have to get unlucky and always hit the % that doesn't drop that at least if they spend whatever currency of their choice they can guarantee to get the crystals they need per area in 30-45 FATEs rather than 3-x FATEs.

[Kikoten]

WELL, GOOD FOR THEM.

Who cares?

[Felis]

Ironic you mention this. The original relic from 2.0 didn't take grinds; it took the climbing of a skill wall. You could do it in a day, or it could take you weeks depending on how good you, or your groups were.

2.0 quest was a nerfed down catch up version of 1.0 relic quest. They didn't add grind to it (or better removed the grind out of it, like Hamlet Defence) so the new players can get themselves on the same progress step as a 1.x player. At the end, the devs saw then that the playes got their relics too fast if there is no grind.