Apparently someone in the JPN servers has completed their Animus relic!

[Blood-Aki]

Alot of the complaints/threats to quit are from people who are pissed that this is the 'content' that was delayed for about a half a year: grind more of the exact same stuff we got sick of from the past 6 months, and the same grind they knew we hated, and said they wouldn't do again (atma).

For those people, it's not how long it takes which bothers them nearly as much as the sheer volume of old content that's been farmed to death that's required. Naturally, if the grind is this lengthy, and more importantly mind-numbing, repetitive, and full of sh** we've done dozens of times for months in the past, people will want it over ASAP.

I see how it's easy for you to confuse the core of the complaints as "too much" if you don't try a little harder to read them.

No, it's just a failure to understand what you read on your part, There is no confusion from on my part, But i see how an ego can make one think this way.

If you actually pay attention, Most of the complaints are about the crystal part, Which in all honesty is the eaiest part of the relic. and no where near as bad as the atma. the item collection is a bit different then before, like the last relic. People just like to complain when things are not handed to them quickly, please try to read carefully and understand what you read next time. it may help.

[Kallera]

No, it's just a failure to understand what you read on your part, There is no confusion from on my part, But i see how an ego can make one think this way.

If you actually pay attention, Most of the complaints are about the crystal part, Which in all honesty is the eaiest part of the relic. and no where near as bad as the atma. the item collection is a bit different then before, like the last relic. People just like to complain when things are not handed to them quickly, please try to read carefully and understand what you read next time. it may help.

Uh, no. There are specifics you are missing.

The complaints about the crystals is because it is the same system as the atma, a system people already did not like for its inherent rng. Some have suggested a type of safety net to prevent situations like "i have been farming for 6 hours without a drop.", because they do happen, even now. Others are complaining about the 3rd step,from the amount of work required to the fact that you need specialist crafter connections and/or a lot of gil.

Still more are complaining about the result of All this work, resulting in a weapon with bland stats, that will be outclassed in the next patch, if it isn't already outclassed in this one...and if the Zeta is to be believed, will ultimately be trashed like a coupon for....more grinding!

[Reilyn]

No, it's just a failure to understand what you read on your part, There is no confusion from on my part, .

You say this then immediately speak of ego as if you're one to talk?

But i see how an ego can make one think this way

Also, you entirely glossed over the details of why people are quitting over it by just writing everyone off who does quit with a blanket statement such as:

and the other half are here on the forums complaining that it's "to much" and they are going to quit.

I provided a larger picture on the issue than what your borderline bemeaning post managed to do while you harp on about the atma farm, and only the atma farm as if that's the majority of complaints, when it's not. It's actually the minority of complaints given how many people turned in their zeta to skip it, but still a valid complaint nonetheless because of its pure RNG nature, and the fact they know people don't like it, and didn't want to serve it to us again, but they did anyway.

There's still the matter of everything else that you haven't so much as alluded to where I have, such as this:

The principal of the matter that it took 6 months for them to feed us something so... uninspired? With how little creative effort was invested into this 'content' people are rightfully left wondering 'why couldn't we have this in 2.0 when we had more of a reason to do this content when it was relevant?'. The handling of this all screams of padding to keep us busy, and people would sooner let their subs freeze out of hatred of this lack of quality, or until content worth paying for comes along.

You've completely failed to address these complaints from the past days, and say I've failed to understand what I've read? How so?

[Hakuohsama]

I gues RL not found?

[Blood-Aki]

You say this then immediately speak of ego as if you're one to talk?

Yes, you not understand it's meaning? Just because i don't agree with your opinion does not mean i have an "ego" but your terrible analysis of my post of "i can see how its easy to confuse" clearly showed yours. as if you actually think what you said was fact.

Also, you entirely glossed over the details of why people are quitting over it by just writing everyone off who does quit with a blanket statement such as:

Like i explained to another naive person in a different thread, i know why peopel are upset over it, "waa because it's the same thing" yet not one of them or you could probably come up with a better idea. that didn't involve the relic take 2 days to complete at most. People are complaning for no valid reason other then "this takes to long, it's the same thing as previous relic" when involving relics is meant to take massive grinds and tasks that not everyone will be willing to do. Hence you just want to see your self type.

I provided a larger picture on the issue than what your borderline bemeaning post managed to do.

You did not, You think you said something valid when you infact just displayed your inability to read properly. It's fine tho, it happens.

@kallera, that post was simply not worth responding to, since i already went over that previously.

[Reilyn]

yet not one of them or you could probably come up with a better idea

There is an entirely separate thread for this.

Like i explained to another naive person in a different thread, i know why peopel are upset over it, "waa because it's the same thing" yet not one of them or you could probably come up with a better idea. that didn't involve the relic take 2 days to complete at most. People are complaning for no valid reason other then "this takes to long, it's the same thing as previous relic" when involving relics is meant to take massive grinds and tasks that not everyone will be willing to do.

I really can't take you seriously, and I will not bother with you if your idea of most people here are a bunch of whining babies who want their toys now. There's no convincing you.

You did not, You think you said something valid when you infact just displayed your inability to read properly. It's fine tho, it happens.

The more you post, the more you show your lack of maturity. Also, please learn to type/proofread. The punctuation, and spelling mistakes are an offense to the eyes before I read the even worse content.

[Blood-Aki]

I really can't take you seriously, and I will not bother with you if your idea of most people here are a bunch of whining babies who want their toys now. There's no convincing you.

What do you think complaining is? someone has already finished their relic and people are in progress of it, Not here getting hissy fits because relics are the same process as the previous one, it isn't going to go away if you whine enough. No need to convince me of something thatis clearly showing it self.

The more you post, the more you show your lack of maturity.

Pot calling the kettle black. But i bet if i agreed with you, there would be no problem, right?

[kuikui]

Hey if people can sit in a theatre and watch over 26 Hrs straight of star wars, they can surely do this!

[Reilyn]

because relics are the same process as the previous one, it isn't going to go away if you whine enough

Ironic you mention this. The original relic from 2.0 didn't take grinds; it took the climbing of a skill wall. You could do it in a day, or it could take you weeks depending on how good you, or your groups were.

Some people whined about having to climb a skill wall, and it's part of the reason chores that take literally no real skill has been an integral part of relics ever since.

So yes, whining does change things, with a notable example being the relic questchain's transition from its 2.0 roots --> 2.2 onward. They call this 'putting your foot in your mouth'.

What do you think complaining is? someone has already finished their relic and people are in progress of it, Not here getting hissy fits

This statement is worthy of nothing but a facepalm.

[Blood-Aki]

Ironic you mention this. The original relic from 2.0 didn't take grinds; it took the climbing of a skill wall. You could do it in a day, or it could take you weeks depending on how good you, or your groups were.

2.0 was the start of the game SE knew people didn't have lots of gill and crafts to depend on, so they made the 1st steps easy, and as you already seen it branced off to higher relics which got more tedious. Not a good example.

People whined about having to climb a skill wall, and it's part of the reason chores has been an integral part of relics ever since.

So yes, whining does change things, with a notable example being the relic questchain's 2.0 roots itself. You sort of shot yourself in the foot.

Yea, hopefully SE will magicly change the entire relic quest asap because some peopel whining that its to much for them, Let me know when that update will come.

didn't shoot my self in the foot do you even understand half of what you say, Not agreeing with you does not mean a person shot them self in the foot..

This statement is worthy of nothing but a facepalm.

I could say all of your pots are worthy of face palms, its easy to throw random words like this out when you feel defeated and unable to come up with a logical, reasonable explination as to why you are complaining.

It's like a bully picking on you, and then the victim fights back and beats him, and then he tells everyone else. "you are so dumb for letting me hit you in the 1st place, how childish of you"

But rather then waste anymore posts on this desperate attempt at earnign your self brownie points i'll just end with we'll agree to disagree. You can continue to complain and scof at how tedious the relic quest is while everyone else finishes it. But no, it won't change anytime soon, Guess you better hope the next update will make it easier for you. I'm done wasting my time with you now.