The permanent lodestone bans

[cgbspender]

I wish SE's policy about banning were actually harsher.

[Teryaani]

It's not brain science to follow the organisation's rules when you're using their services.

I don't think anyone is arguing that. The concern is over uneven enforcement. A GM having a bad day can temp or perma ban on a whim and there should be some means to request the decision be reviewed.

I am talking more about the lodestone blog, but the forums are in a similar situation.

Forum bans are much easier to get and much more common.

[StriderShinryu]

Eh, when you're using a format where you actually have to think about what you're going to say, type it out and then confirm it somehow, I think there are more than enough checks in place to discourage questionable behaviour. There really isn't any excuse for overly heated responses because the process itself actually discourages it through it's very existence. We're not talking a face to face (or at least voice to voice) exchange here where you literally can blurt out something you immediately regret.

That said, any sort of punitive system should have an appeal process. If SE doesn't have one, it should.

[Cherie]

It's easy to say "mind your manners" and you won't get banned. Unless that person knows why/how permanent bans are taking place, it would be hard to say right? (cause well, if you post, you are still here).

I've known 2 or more people with permanent bans. If you break any of the rules you likely will be banned permanently or such a long time (years) that it might as well be permanent.

Sure there are rules, but you can be banned at the moderator's judgement as well as far as I understand it.(I mean, shouldn't they be allowed to choose to do what they want? It's not like a forum is public property. Paying for the game doesn't include access to the forums. It's a perk.). Also, don't think they have to read everything in the forum until they hit something that is needing attention. There is a handy-dandy "report post" button. If two people are getting at it in a argument, I wouldn't doubt they might fell the need to report the other for being what they consider to be offensive. Very well both people could get banned.

Personally I think getting banned forever for for saying the wrong thing is a bit much. But it's not up to me. It's their decision. Getting a thread removed isn't a automatic ban though. (I've had one removed. It was my fault for not reading the guidelines but I didn't break a rule as far as I know.) So, I have a feeling banning is probably not the first choice in their head. There are certainly things that are instantly a ban though.

[StouterTaru]

Eh, when you're using a format where you actually have to think about what you're going to say, type it out and then confirm it somehow, I think there are more than enough checks in place to discourage questionable behaviour. There really isn't any excuse for overly heated responses because the process itself actually discourages it through it's very existence. We're not talking a face to face (or at least voice to voice) exchange here where you literally can blurt out something you immediately regret.

That said, any sort of punitive system should have an appeal process. If SE doesn't have one, it should.

It takes almost nothing to get a temp ban on the forums; all you have to say is something that could cause a kindergartner to react with "I'm telling" and one person to have an ingrown hair in their no-no zone to report it. This includes implying a naughty word, or being mean.

The appeals process is waiting 72 hours to get an automated e-mail response that is less informative than the original temp ban e-mail.

[Immut]

I once got a 3 day forum ban for putting joke tags on dev posts.

A friend of mine got a permanent forum ban for rickrolling a mod. It was lifted the next day.

[Ashkendor]

I once got a 3 day forum ban for putting joke tags on dev posts.

A friend of mine got a permanent forum ban for rickrolling a mod. It was lifted the next day.

Depending on what the tags were ("joke" covers a lot of ground) I could maybe see that, especially since they were dev posts. I got a 10 day ban for making a snarky comment about missing a memo that it's hard to gear up or something, though. They said it was discriminatory and negative toward the community. I thought it was a stretch (seriously, it was meant as a joke), but there musta been some serious butthurt there from the person that reported me. They were having a hard time gearing up, I guess. xD

[Immut]

Specifically, I tagged a bugfix for japanese text on a certain slyph "Katakana Cabbage Creatures"

[Mycow8me]

I got banned 10 days for "encouraging botting" in a thread that was specifically targeted against botting (i even created the thread). Careful, the admins dont even care if its sarcasm and they dont like you telling the truth about the botting situation either. Never forgive, never forget.

In regards to thread though, perm bans should be used for something deserving of it. Violent threats and harassment maybe... everything else probably just a cool-off temp ban...

[loreleidiangelo]

Our FC leader got banned for creating and posting that hilarious "Interview with the relic developer" video that everyone has been linking and passing around like wildfire.

I think my biggest issue is that warnings and stuff for first offenses aren't really issued... I got banned for using a swear word in one of my posts that is present in the GAME TEXT ITSELF, and nowhere was I given the chance to edit my post or given a warning that any swearing at all is against forum rules (seriously, people do it on here all the time...). I'd never had a single infraction before then, despite using the forums since 2014. But lol, just jumped straight to that 10-day ban.

I get that "rules are rules" and all that, but just looking at this thread it seems like a lot of frequent, respectable posters have been temp banned at some point, which makes me believe that there isn't enough cross-checking of reports going on or warnings being issued to infrequent offenders.