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  1. #41
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    Valkyrie-Amber's Avatar
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    Kujata
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    Monk Lv 80
    cause the initial step is only for a 170 relic.... but if you play one of the classes that has no ss on the relic then the 200 ver that's run 10 dutys btw.

    really I don't care how long it takes 210 due to the fact I missed the initial raiding cycle now people only want clear people in their groups.

    when 3.0 first came out I played DRG got that 60 then eventually leveled my MNK. my DRG dps was kinda bad the first week alex sav came out was
    like 1.2k. so since then I leveled and mastered mnk and no one wants a new person who never cleared any alex sav in group now so have to wait till
    next raiding cycle that's possibly 3.2...
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  2. #42
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    Lou Lupus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Ninja Lv 90
    The first quest is a joke, and an insult to all the people that spent months and millions of gil to get their Zeta; the fact that they think that the first quest is equivalent to all the work that it required originally to get a Zeta is beyond me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    one thing I have to say..... why did se make the crystal rng of new relic same rate as the original atma grind before it got nerfed....
    It's not even close to the original Atma drop rate, not by a longshot...

    I got all 18 crystals in less than a days work, before Atma nerf it took me a couple weeks to get 12 and I had better luck than most people.
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    Last edited by Werewolf; 12-19-2015 at 03:57 AM.

  3. #43
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    werewolf.... your forgetting the key thing here and that's the whole rng thing what may take you less than a days work could take another two days plus doing the same effort as you did in the one but doing it twice...
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  4. #44
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    Lou Lupus
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    werewolf.... your forgetting the key thing here and that's the whole rng thing what may take you less than a days work could take another two days plus doing the same effort as you did in the one but doing it twice...
    I don't think it would take 48+ hours of farming for anyone even with really bad rng luck to get 18 crystals, it probably took me about 8-10 hours of actual farming to get all 18 crystals and just for a reference roughly 3-4 hours to get 12 atmas (and 50-60 hours to get 12 atmas pre nerf).
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie-Amber View Post
    werewolf.... your forgetting the key thing here and that's the whole rng thing what may take you less than a days work could take another two days plus doing the same effort as you did in the one but doing it twice...
    You're over estimating the drop rate while it is indeed low it is no where near the pre-nerf atma drop rate, considering you need 3 of each element some people would be going weeks without ever coming close to finishing if that was the case, If you're actually doing fates at a fast pace they will come in a day or 2. depending on long you actually do them. drops will obviously vary with people. but they are not as bad as you're thinking.
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  6. #46
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehr View Post
    You have to get gold in the FATEs in order to have a chance to get a drop if you didn't know that.
    I got one with Silver, ~24k exp (instead of ~42k) and a lightning crystal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    I don't think it would take 48+ hours of farming for anyone even with really bad rng luck to get 18 crystals, it probably took me about 8-10 hours of actual farming to get all 18 crystals and just for a reference roughly 3-4 hours to get 12 atmas (and 50-60 hours to get 12 atmas pre nerf).
    One of my FC mates had done over 1000 fates before he got the atmas. Not even exaggerating, he nearly quit the game over it lol
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  7. #47
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    Aylin Celesse
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    everyone who got their crystals fast I'm happy for you, but it took me waking up day one sitting in front of my pc and only moving for bathroom and food and sleep, then waking up day two and taking half the day to finish it then, and after all that I never felt so exhausted and groggy and drained and just horriable.

    But yeah i wont be able to the last step because its locked behind a pay gil wall, and I'm gil handicapped ;__;
    I feel you on that last step- I am gil-challenged.

    I'm still collecting crystals (finished Coerthas and Sea of Clouds, 2/3 on Churning Mists so far), but I've been doing it super casually while leveling my WHM- I want to see if I can hit 60 by the time I finish collecting them all (currently 58!). :3

    But the last step? Ugh. Ugggggh. Hyperion always price gouges, but these are ridiculous. I'm going to try to convince the few crafters in my FC to help me out, but still. Ugh.
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  8. #48
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    Lou Lupus
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    One of my FC mates had done over 1000 fates before he got the atmas. Not even exaggerating, he nearly quit the game over it lol
    Yeah I was quite lucky with pre nerf atma drops, a lot of people I know took much longer to get them XD
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  9. #49
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    Meli San
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    Collecting 18 atmas has taken some people only a day. My Zeta took thousands of light, 12 atma, 900 mobs, hundreds of dungeons, and much more time than it would take to obtain a measly 18 atma from HW zones.
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  10. #50
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    BUT HE LIED! I would much rather grind for a zeta than do those FATEs like that again, that was just horrible at least most of the things you need in the 2.0 relic are instant drop now. I will never do another 3.1.5 relic without a zeta EVER again just no way
    Lol you think this is bad? You don't know of the horrors of the pre-nerf Atma grind. I spent a week getting all the drops, some of the guildies took a month to get them. Compared to that, the drop rates on the crystals are almost heavenly. And if you think Step 1 is bad, you don't want to see Step 3.
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