Do you find running the same raid/dungeon/fight 100+ times fun?

[Blood-Aki]

Welcome to How MMOs work? WHat MMO do you know that doesn't need you to grind at some point for top gear, P2W games don't count.

[DisFlavored]

Welcome to How MMOs work? WHat MMO do you know that doesn't need you to grind at some point for top gear, P2W games don't count.

Yay another person who doesn't understand why people are upset!
We expect a grind, but not the exact same grind we JUST did for our previous relics. We all did our grind in Alex for our 190 gear, the 60 dungeons for Law/Eso, the 50 dungeons for Poetic gear, and the Brayflox for the best lvl 30 gear. Grinds aren't a surprise, we know they exist in the MMO universe.

[Kallera]

Yay another person who doesn't understand why people are upset!
We expect a grind, but not the exact same grind we JUST did for our previous relics. We all did our grind in Alex for our 190 gear, the 60 dungeons for Law/Eso, the 50 dungeons for Poetic gear, and the Brayflox for the best lvl 30 gear. Grinds aren't a surprise, we know they exist in the MMO universe.

This.

I think anyone entering HW, had experienced what it means to grind content at least at some point playing this game or another.
But doing the same thing over and over, if you have been doing said thing already for 6 months, isn't a very appealing prospect, at least you wont be approaching the 228th run with the same appeal and joy as your 1st or 2nd. I hope no one is expecting every relic runner to be all smiles throughout this, because we've seen better, more appealing, or at least less tedious ways to do this.

And shouldn't that be what the customer would like? To enjoy what they are doing, instead of feeling like they are serving some corporate interest? Sounds like a rule for developing content.

[NoahArks]

Personally I can't get enough of 30-man raids. Void Ark was a slight disappointment though. The bosses weren't as they were in the other three dungeons. These mechanics were too easy to get down during the fight that my party I've done it with didn't wipe a single time when the dungeon released. I do kind of wish SE would focus more on releasing these types of dungeons. Get a Savage raid dedecated to 30 people. Let people make a alliance before applying.

[Leigaon]

I don't mind running them. I even love running Tam Tara. These dungeons are beautiful. there isn't enough credit to give on how astounding these dungeons are.

I think it's like others said, they are very straight forward. I guess you can say they're boring after the 800th time, but maybe it depends on when you did those 800. If you did them in a week? Sure let the sickness sink in..if you do it over a period of time? Not so bad. Most do run and burn themselves out. They need it now now now and wanting to have everything.

I would love a relic that was shorter and more challenging rather than mindless repetitive grinds.

That would be fine also, then those who want it will have to do more than spend insane amounts of time. Either one is okay by me, as a filthy casual I am if the quest line was more difficult I would most likely step my game up but I gear for the content I enjoy playing. I know some who are upset with this whole thing, and they should be they are hardcore end-game raiders who I think deserve something amazing and special for completing a task. Something I could never get just logging in and messing around for a few hours. That's me though, and that's a different topic on how I think raiders should get something astounding because they worked hard. Which goes into how raiding should work..and it's just a rabbit hole from there.

[Blood-Aki]

Yay another person who doesn't understand why people are upset!
We expect a grind, but not the exact same grind we JUST did for our previous relics. We all did our grind in Alex for our 190 gear, the 60 dungeons for Law/Eso, the 50 dungeons for Poetic gear, and the Brayflox for the best lvl 30 gear. Grinds aren't a surprise, we know they exist in the MMO universe.

Yay another person who jumps to conclusions, i know why people are "upset" it was already proven in the 10 other complaint topics that poped up, but the anwser remains the same.

[FeliAiko]

Yay another person who jumps to conclusions, i know why people are "upset" it was already proven in the 10 other complaint topics that poped up, but the anwser remains the same.

In other words, you dont know why people are upset then. It goes beyond the relic; this just happened to be the breaking point for people.

[Blood-Aki]

In other words, you dont know why people are upset then. It goes beyond the relic; this just happened to be the breaking point for people.

Incorrect, Whining about the same grind is pointless, even if it was different type of grind people will still complain, because it's not a 20 minute fetch quest.

[ScarletDawn]

Yay another person who jumps to conclusions, i know why people are "upset" it was already proven in the 10 other complaint topics that poped up, but the anwser remains the same.

People are angry because the first stage is atma farming..we was told they hated the Atma farming thing and would never do it again we was promised! And here we are 6 months on with an Atma grind....Stage 2 is great it uses the old dungeons so new players get ques good...

Stage 3...ah this is the big fail not the epic grind but the bad crafting need.


Also what was wrong with the extreme fights we have? Id be much happier if i had to do all 3 extremes.

[Alien]

People are angry because the first stage is atma farming..we was told they hated the Atma farming thing and would never do it again we was promised! And here we are 6 months on with an Atma grind....Stage 2 is great it uses the old dungeons so new players get ques good...

Stage 3...ah this is the big fail not the epic grind but the bad crafting need.

there is also stage 4...

which is by the time you finish your anima weapon, it will be patch 3.2 and the weapon will be totally useless