To Chaos Adders/Flames pre-mades

[Natsuka]

Again: I don't hate anyone in here.
First of all, Seal Rock is objective PvP, so even if you play godly like Yicheng said, there's still a chance of losing, due to the mere fact you won't ever get nodes and maybe get squished/chased or whatever while you try.
Next thing, when you guys started going premade you sucked the fun out of Seal Rock for the whole data center, since most of the veteran players took a break. The major problem of this, you weren't only around at specific hours, no.You're around all day. Which means for people who weren't able to go premade you basically killed Seal Rock for several weeks. And then, after you killed the shit out of Seal Rock for everyone but yourself, you decide to upload screenshots of how you roll over pugs. And now tell me, are you really surprised that people feel provoked and react like they did? Don't get me wrong, I understand your intentions. Rolling over pugs is boring, fighting against premades if you are in one yourself is definitely more fun. But the way you tried to get premades in, in my opinion you took the wrong path. Opening a thread and asking for premades, yes. Opening a thread, uploading screens of how you roll over pugs, no. PvP community is likely to be toxic and after you provoked them don't be surprised if it backfires, is all I ask for.

And like I said I don't hate anyone in here, but please try to understand why some of the people here reacted like they did instead of saying "Oh, you're only salty."

Then people complain about us grudge playing. I remember a certain match really well, where we had no nodes at the beginning of the match, went north to fight Mael over one of their 2 B ranks and managed to get it. That Mael group re-grouped and came back and we killed them a second time. And a few moments later that besaid Mael group regrouped again and pushed us again, just to get rekt again. What happened for the rest of the match was Mael grudge-focusing and chasing us around the map, preventing us from winning. So, when we FINALLY manage to get rid of them and go for adders, because they were by far leading at that point, that Mael group had nothing better to do than to backstab and sandwich us, while we actually tried to win. And when I checked the leaderboard at the end it was a full Cerberus group. I can't remember all their names, but there were a LOT of people that have posted in this thread, wanting "fun and fair matches". If this was a one-time scenario, I wouldn't even mention this, but it happened several times.

I understand your complaining about people killing the fun in your beloved Seal Rock, but think about what I said above and maybe you'll see that it was part of your group killing the joy of Seal Rock for others, too.

[DacienLxion]

Again: I don't hate anyone in here.
First of all, Seal Rock is objective PvP, so even if you play godly like Yicheng said, there's still a chance of losing, due to the mere fact you won't ever get nodes and maybe get squished/chased or whatever while you try.
Next thing, when you guys started going premade you sucked the fun out of Seal Rock for the whole data center, since most of the veteran players took a break. The major problem of this, you weren't only around at specific hours, no.You're around all day. Which means for people who weren't able to go premade you basically killed Seal Rock for several weeks. And then, after you killed the shit out of Seal Rock for everyone but yourself, you decide to upload screenshots of how you roll over pugs. And now tell me, are you really surprised that people feel provoked and react like they did?

your post is what i was Trying to say at the start of the thread also and i highly agree with it but saying this i ended up being salty or hating orther ppl for some reason.

Better to go all back to solo or Duo Queue's where there is no hate at all.

[xxczx]

The problem we have is that everyone thinks just because one person did something, that means everyone is involved with it as well. For example, if one of Phoenix did something that means the whole of Phoenix is in on it as well - which is simply not true. I admit I've made the assumption of "well that one Odin guy is a bit of a cock so that means everyone in Odin is a cock too".

This thread just got way out of hand and is not really giving a good impression on the Chaos data center. I hoped the animosity between us guys stopped when we did Wolves Den together but clearly it's still there. It might of been a bit of a dickish move for me to post screenshots in the original post of us steamrolling a 24 match but it's worked - PvPers have come back and have started queuing again. My intentions, while has been misleaded, has worked.

When I'm leading, I always make sure it's always a fair fight and we only attack the winning team. Some people in the Linkshell (which btw, has 23 active players.) see red when you guys are in the match and think they can win 1v1 when - correct me if I'm wrong btw - you guys are on Teamspeak so can say "oh this nob from Mael is here" and call for backup.

Everyone in our group has their own faults, people like to chase, people like to 1v1, some people like to focus an annoying tank while the healer is like 'lolk'. I don't think I've ever seen such a coordinated group like you guys (Odin) and whenever I see you guys in a 24, I'm always spamming my macro in chat for everyone to sit the fuck down and actually play as a group lol.

I hope tonight for Wolves Den actually does Chaos some good and we can all get along again. The constant grudge holding by all of us is pretty annoying. I love being able to go into Seal Rock and try and /hug Bibi, stun lock Pharios or Deathflare Dacien to get attention only to look like a dick and fall off a cliff, it's those moments that really makes the game for me.

[KenshinT]

(which btw, has 23 active players.)

WTB some of those active players! 7/11 active players in our ls xD

[DacienLxion]

Deathflare Dacien to get attention only to look like a dick and fall off a cliff, it's those moments that really makes the game for me.

I had a good laugh when i saw that happen XD

[Natsuka]

Dark, the problem is, as soon as you premade, everything the individual does is counted as the group. Even if it's let's say 3 DPS that like to chase/1v1, their healers will follow, which makes 5 people. And I highly doubt, that the remaining few will just roam around and play after objectives just to get fucked by another GC. :P

It might of been a bit of a dickish move for me to post screenshots in the original post of us steamrolling a 24 match but it's worked - PvPers have come back and have started queuing again. My intentions, while has been misleaded, has worked.

I can't deny the fact that the post worked, I was only trying to say I didn't think it happened the right way. And I also agree that all this has given a bad impression on Chaos data center. But also, thanks to you Odin is playing premade now and is happy to be able to. And thanks, I'll take that as a compliment :P We have quite some skilled players, even though we sometimes play like potatoes too lol. No one is free of that. It's basically the same. The second we see you guys in, everyone is like "Guys, play good, Pre-made is here."
On the other hand, I can understand all the pugs or not full pre-mades that get disencouraged by all the premades that are around now. It's like I said, if you can't premade, premades of another GC just kills the fun and we are most likely scaring off all the pugs.

[DacienLxion]

I can't deny the fact that the post worked, I was only trying to say I didn't think it happened the right way. And I also agree that all this has given a bad impression on Chaos data center. But also, thanks to you Odin is playing premade now and is happy to be able to. And thanks, I'll that as a compliment :P We have quite some skilled players

it might have been the wrong way to get people in as premades but you managed to make us go in as a premade and it was gonna end up way out of hand since the start, but yup thanks to that we actually have fun in SR now only if we go as premade and get another premade against us yesterday fighting pug groups was really boring till we got you guys in as premades everyone woke up and started to be encouraged.
and yea it does give a bad impression on Chaos data center.

[S-snape]

Most likely is an understatement. I started the game a month ago, dinged 60 two weeks in, started PvPing in seals rock. First few days were amazing with many 72 pops and few 24s. But the last few days it's been a majority of 24 man pops for me. And it's always a premade.

I'm one of the most hardcore PvPers I know, always pvping constantly in whatever game I play, every day. But these last few days have almost sucked the fun out of the PvP for me, because it's not only prime-time the premades queue, it's often also at completely random times where they're guaranteed the only premade playing, and it's just all us pugs getting completely wiped out.

It would be cool, if you guys could atleast perhaps not 8 man queue when it's downtime. No new players will develop an interest in PvP with the constant premades every hour of the day PvP is queue-able. Which will hurt you guys in the long-run aswell.