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  1. #11
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    AstralKaos's Avatar
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    Sophia Aintree
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi View Post
    So...
    They made specializations to help non omni crafters, but failed at that...

    And now are just forcing specializations on people with locked recipies..?
    Bingo, you got it!

    It's great isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandril View Post
    Pretty much. They either failed and don't want to admit it, so they tried to force the feature to be popular by locking recipes behind it, or they forgot why they made the specializations feature to begin with. Or their reasons were never to help non-omnicrafters to begin with, and they used that as an excuse to hinder omnicrafting.
    This too, I believe it's a bit of both honestly. They sat down and thought "how can we help one class people be okay at crafting without screwing those that put in all that effort" and then they forgot what they were doing somewhere and made it like it is.

    Then to warrant the system, and not offend the lunch break meeting group that came up with it, they added exclusive dibs on it, followed by digging the cesspit deeper by making relic recipes too.
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    Last edited by AstralKaos; 12-18-2015 at 11:56 AM.

  2. #12
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    No benefit?

    I dunno, the millions of gil sitting on my retainer from selling specialist recipes seems to disagree with that. It keeps prices high so crafters can make more gil due to limited competition.
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  3. #13
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    Gunspec's Avatar
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Ultros
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    Warrior Lv 80
    The least they could have done was allow a free respec on specializations once they added the recipes to the game. I chose to be a leatherworker specialist as soon as I hit level 55, just to see what the system was like. It seemed to be rather pointless, so I only chose other specializations to get those crystals out of my inventory. I believe I chose blacksmith purely on the assumption that the skills might make crafting offhand tools a little easier, if they did a repeat of 2.5.

    Now I'm wasting red scripts to change my specializations to things that actually involve items I want. They basically asked us to pick a card, and only told us the significance of the choice 6 months later.
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  4. #14
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Something something omni crafter bullshit.
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  5. #15
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    Kaye Esdarke
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    Hyperion
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    Because you're supposed to make friends in this game. It's a multiplayer game. I'm sorry that if you can't do that, but that's a personal problem, not a game design one.
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  6. #16
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    Shiki_Lockhart's Avatar
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    Shiki Lockhart
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Because you're supposed to make friends in this game. It's a multiplayer game. I'm sorry that if you can't do that, but that's a personal problem, not a game design one.
    I was going to say what you just said now lol

    Like he said this a multiplayer game, it is a game to you accomplish things with others and help each other. Even relic can be worked together and you don't spent a single gil buying the items HQ if you work together to each one gather 1 of those mats and then some of them craft for everyone.
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  7. #17
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    Vandril's Avatar
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    Ter'vin Valash
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    Diabolos
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Because you're supposed to make friends in this game. It's a multiplayer game. I'm sorry that if you can't do that, but that's a personal problem, not a game design one.
    Yes. That's why many people don't like the specialist system. Certainly.

    It isn't because it directly contradicts previous design decisions and current mechanics in the game that support leveling every craft and using them all. And it certainly isn't because the specialist system doesn't even remotely achieve SE's purported goals, and yet they're ignoring that fact entirely and pretending all is well. It's most definitely not because the specialist system introduced an obvious recipe bias in favor of ARM/LTW/WVR/GSM, where as the rest received minimal recipes, some only receiving materials only used by other specialist classes.

    No, it can't be any of those glaring flaws in the system. We just have no friends.

    That's it. You caught us.
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    Last edited by Vandril; 12-18-2015 at 08:29 PM.

  8. #18
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    Conando's Avatar
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I was under the impression that people hate the specialist recipes because specialist in itself didn't do what it was supposed to. That is to help players out who aren't omnicrafting actually make the better items at the qualities they want. Instead, it became a gate for content. Not to mention the specialist abilities suck.
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  9. #19
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    Silver Tiger
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    Kujata
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    Monk Lv 80
    actually many master crafters anticipated the need to stock up on crafter souls over buy the blue crafter gear and they are going to make a tone.... wish I was smart enough to do that too... only have 5 spare crafter souls sitting on retainer...
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  10. #20
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immut View Post
    Because you're supposed to make friends in this game.
    So why does the duty finder exist...? Shouldn't you just make friends to run dungeons instead?

    Heck, why are quests and FATEs easily solo-able? For the most part, the game does not exactly encourage you to "make friends", until you're suddenly hit by a brick wall that can't be overcome without them.
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