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  1. #2781
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    NovoLenio's Avatar
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    Novo Lenio
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    Midgardsormr
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    White Mage Lv 76
    Afterwards, we managed to get past that and reach Echidna. That fight was a disaster. One tank did not keep their snake away from the other snake. On the second attempt, we get everything done right, for the most part. However, remember my comment about the outside stuff interfering with my tank? He was petrified once by the add, and vuln'd two other times after that; one from being petrified (only a few seconds left on his first debuff+interference occurring) and one from Abyssal Reaper because of his petrification. (Some tanks don't know that you should stun Petrifaction during the add phase.) He hit sub-3k HP (from about 20k) because my cohealer was *totally* doing his job while I was picking up an alliance member. Luckily, he knew what to do as far as spacing cooldowns Did I mention no Benediction? I picked up majority of that missing HP on my own. Oh yeah, we have a new inside joke: I'm the Main Healer.

    *PS You're the best tank ever! I love you.
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  2. #2782
    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Yeah I always Broil the adds on Scholar too, they likely expected you to do that. I think it's a waste of DPS for the actual DPS to move from the boss to do that since they die so fast.
    I'd agree with you, only during the charge phases of that boss fight anyone who hits the boss stuns themselves and cancels their Dps anyway. Might as well just deal with the slime and adds instead of wasting time trying to hit a boss that is electrocuting you for every hit. The faster the mechs are handled, the faster the Dps can get back to the boss.
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  3. #2783
    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyku View Post
    Rolled Pharos Hard for DREx ...
    I can kind of sympathize with the tank not pulling the adds since, more often than not, the Dps kill them before it's even an issue (no point in wasting Tp/Mp on an AoE aggro grab that sacrifices position for the sake of adds that will be dead in under 5 seconds), but the Dps sound like total trash here. You have two ranged Dps who could have easily handled the mechs no problem with minimal interruption to their rotations. There is no excuse for them not doing it. They already have the easiest job in the game, laziness as a Dps is not something I can easily tolerate.
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  4. #2784
    Player Februs's Avatar
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    Februs Harrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovoLenio View Post
    (Some tanks don't know that you should stun Petrifaction during the add phase.)
    In a 24 man cluster fu... I mean raid... I never trust other players to handle mechanics correctly. Instead of trusting in a stun, I just focus target her and look away (like in T7, back in the day). It's easier, much more reliable, and typically handles itself anyway if the other two tanks are keeping the snakes away from Echidna. If you're attacking a snake, chances are your back is turned to Echidna... unless you're a Tank or Healer, that is, but that's what FT is for.

    Either way, sounds like your co-healer was there for a carry... or was very noobish (in which case I'm sure the Cuchulainn fight was rather shocking to him/her). My FC healer tells me that that fight was not fun the first time she did it... That being said, she also managed to solo heal 2 out of 3 of the parties while the healers ate the paste or got themselves locked out by accidentally respawning instead of accepting a rez. At the time I laughed at her expense, but given all the times I was forced to near-solo tank the Tower Saga, I sympathized greatly.
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  6. #2785
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
    I'd agree with you, only during the charge phases of that boss fight anyone who hits the boss stuns themselves and cancels their Dps anyway. Might as well just deal with the slime and adds instead of wasting time trying to hit a boss that is electrocuting you for every hit. The faster the mechs are handled, the faster the Dps can get back to the boss.
    Yup you're right. I meant that as a healer I kill the slime adds, not all adds. I should have been more clear. The DDs and tank usually handle the gobs and the tanks(?) and that makes sense, of course I help with them too though.
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  7. #2786
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    Lilypoo's Avatar
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    Astrelle Deresnels
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    Malboro
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I have a few stories, but I will share the horror I encountered today. Went into leveling roulette with my lvl 57 SCH and got The Aery. I love this dungeon! Admittedly, I'm still learning how to properly heal and DPS at the same time. AST is my main class so it's a bit of a change for me. I love it, though!

    Anyways, so got in, everyone said hi, tank actually let me cast everything and even let me get Adlo on him Go to the first pull, I put our a shadow flare as the tank seemed to be sticking to one place. DPS is doing good, I'm doing good, tank seemed to be doing good... until he started moving onto the next group when this one was about a quarter of the way down. We were like ??? but went along with it. Eventually, we got to the broodlings and the slumbering dragons and he decided to go pull all of them and proceeded to die. (c)
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  8. #2787
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    I admit, I was a bit stunned because of his manner of pulling. Even the DPS were saying "I'm confused lol" and saying that they'd never seen that manner of pulling before. I asked politely if we could just pull like normal and I think the DPS even said to just let us know if he's gonnna pull like that so we're ready, to which he replied "Okay." I thought he was replying to me as well, but then he said "No I'll pull how I want to pull I know what I'm doing". I was like whatever, he's gonna do it whether we like it or not so I just gotta be prepared.

    Well, we got to another pull and apparently I was typing when I could have been "curing." Now, I know it might have been a douchey thing for me to say but I just said, "I don't cure, I physick." Lol, a little healer humor but he obv. didn't appreciate it. And so he proceeded to tell me to do my job and to stop typing. It was hilarious. I told him he should be a more considerate tank and realize he's not the only one in the dungeon.
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  9. #2788
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    Lilypoo's Avatar
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    Astrelle Deresnels
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    Malboro
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    He left as soon as the last boss was down (which went well, thankfully) and I'm sure didn't commend. I got both commendations from the DPS though and was sad I couldn't give both of them one. The DPS and I actually worked together to get through a dungeon with one of the rudest tanks I've ever seen in my time on FFXIV.

    Anyways, this is but one of my many healing horror stories and it really makes me question if I want to be a healer or not. I LOVE healing, but seriously... some people... make it so. effing. difficult. /disappointed
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  10. #2789
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    DarkmoonVael's Avatar
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilypoo View Post
    He left as soon as the last boss was down (which went well, thankfully) and I'm sure didn't commend. I got both commendations from the DPS though and was sad I couldn't give both of them one. The DPS and I actually worked together to get through a dungeon with one of the rudest tanks I've ever seen in my time on FFXIV.

    Anyways, this is but one of my many healing horror stories and it really makes me question if I want to be a healer or not. I LOVE healing, but seriously... some people... make it so. effing. difficult. /disappointed
    Tanks that go on a little site seeing tour whilst pulling are really difficult to work with . But at least you seemed to have managed to compensate for it with the dps as well .

    Also if you edit your original post you can get round the pesky 1000 character limit.
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  11. #2790
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    Miranda Madison
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Generally I make fast exits as I don't think I was good enough to get comm'd anyhow.

    Got loads of them when I was on WHM though.
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