SE we forgive you.

[Atoli]

At least they look different. We all know that the true end game is all about that glamour.... I can't believe SE stooped this low and made a Eso Replica for the new legendary weapons....

They didn't. It's simply a step in between, the finished weapon does look different, like you already noticed.
If you remember the original relic quest, this is basically like the grey, washed-out unfinished relic weapon you got during the quest and had to fight with. Sure, they could have done that again and given us the ugly version of the finished weapon, but at least to me, it feels a lot more "halfway there!" to have a regular weapon that already looks good with some really pretty glow instead of a dull, grey thing that merely has the shape of what the finished product is.
Also, getting the finished weapon will be a lot greater this way than what it would feel like if I had carried it around with me all the time already, and only gaining the color and glow upon finish.

[Fourbestintoner]

We? I don't. All this grind for daggers that are worse than eso, gordian and thordan in every ways, not even worth doing, I'll wait.

[Moqi]

They're not ny friends so I am not sure why I should forgive them... serves me no purpose unless the product they're selling will change, and it won't.

[CGMidlander]

I'm disappointed about the string of poorly planned content post-HW launch.

[dinnertime]

Maybe the FFXIV team, but not SE themselves. I understand why people are so upset and disenchanted with the game lately, but I feel indifferent myself.
People expected too much from such a small team, and from a company still recovering from their losses. They're working on so many games lately too so that may factor the recent conditions of this one.

[Ryel]

People expected too much from such a small team, and from a company still recovering from their losses. They're working on so many games lately too so that may factor the recent conditions of this one.

I don't agree with this in regards to expectations.

With the amount of publicity, hype and promoting they've poured into this game from various fan fests, developer interviews, and live letters I expected them to deliver something more substantial especially considering the relic questline was pushed back not once but twice, under the assumption that it was being seriously worked on.

If you look at the amount of new content actually involved in the quest (which is virtually none) I do not feel it justifies the length of time it took to release this from a design standpoint. The majority of the stages involve players doing content that was added in late 2.0 / early 3.0 so I see little reason (outside of subscription padding) that this or at least part of this quest line could not have been added earlier for what we've gotten, especially when you consider the fact that they didn't even create any unique trials this time around (Hydra, Chimera). Some of these steps should have come long before now even if it meant adding the first 2 stages of the weapon quest up to ilvl 200 and holding off to release the upgrades when they could be balanced around other content.

The conditions of SE's other games (FFXV, FFVII remake, etc) pay no factor to me in my decision to subscribe for and play FFXIV, additionally with 3 MMOs on the market (FFXIV, FFXI, DQX) I would expect them to know at this point exactly what happens when you over hype features and do not deliver I mean it's not even the first time they've done this in FFXIV (see: Housing).

Myself and many others who have voiced similar sentiments may not have been expecting the most amazing and inspired quest for relic but personally speaking I did expect them to listen to the massive amount of feedback they received for many stages of the first questline, the state current relic however leads me to believe that they haven't.

For the record I don't even think the new relic quest is difficult, overly grindy, or unreasonable. But I do not see this as a positive investment for the over 6 months of subscription fees paid nor do i see it as a positive indicator of things to come for the game, this in addition to many of the other complaints and feedback posted to the entirety of the Heavensward expansion thus far.

I'll remain subbed for now because i enjoy playing with the people i play with and i'd like to see what they say about 3.2+ but that's not by any doing of SE's.

[dinnertime]

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Oh, I understand and completely agree with your points.
I never gave the relic any mind though, since I'm not really interested in it but I may try it to gear up some Jobs. I understand why people are highly upset over it but I honestly expected it to be the way it is as of now since I myself have been disenchanted with their decisions lately, but at the same time feel indifferent.
I didn't expect anything new or engaging from a minor patch, too.

Sadly, I believe SE is investing FFXIV's profits on their other projects *cough* FFXV, FFVII remake, Kingdom Hearts 3 *cough* and not giving enough on this one, so I mentioned. I may be wrong though.

For me, I'm still having fun with the game. I'm playing on a slow pace and I have plenty more things to do, but I may reach the point of considering unsubscribing if 3.2 does not have anything different or great to offer, or the next major patch.
Diadem was a start, but it was poorly thought of in my opinion.

[Nahara]

I'm actually kinda sad that there was no cutscene where I could see my Last Resort Zeta one last time... Seriously... that was kinda heartbreaking...

[Ryel]

For me, I'm still having fun with the game. I'm playing on a slow pace and I have plenty more things to do, but I may reach the point of considering unsubscribing if 3.2 does not have anything different or great to offer, or the next major patch.
Diadem was a start, but it was poorly thought of in my opinion.

That's fair, and I completely agree on Diadem as it felt like a good step forward but one that just didn't go far enough for whatever reason (small team? development costs?) hopefully 3.2 is the start of things turning around for the expansion that was supposed to "take risks" as they put it.

[ChocoFeru]

Nothing to forgive.

People asked grind, SE gave grind.

People asked more raid difficulty, SE provided more difficulty.

What will you ask next?