you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Granyala]

OT:
If people try to level crafters from scratch for this, my prediction would be that the 50->53 phase will crush them, since they have no access to gear that allows them to HQ the items for the leves.
I barely pushed through it on my crafters (most of them being 53 now) and already can't stand it any more because the grind is absurd.

Still have no clue how to level the crappy leatherworker w/o the need to bot.... hide droprates are ridiculously low lol.

[darkendfaith]

Try and make sure to do the daily turn-in's, thats always a nice chunk of xp, even NQ items, towards level 60 you can get up to like 2.5m for a single HQ turn XP wise, and for "skins" send retainers out to get them, 10 every hour or so with battle class retainer. can farm them without farming them also can use rowena's house collectible turn ins for nice xp, i level'd only on collectibles for cul

[LunarEmerald]

I kept up to date with Zeta and did the entire Zodiac chain before parts of it were nerfed

But I'm not sure I'm gonna bother with this. Mainly because they screwed over machinist. We're better off waiting for the gobdip in Void Ark.

[Deathshiro]

SE is going to read all of these threads and notice all the feedback about this quest and how unfun it is. I'm going to put it off for the inevitable nerf bat it's going to get.

[Vlady]

It wont get nerfed. Quite a few people will use a bot over humanly grinding this crap. Nerf the bots first with a ban.

[Granyala]

It wont get nerfed.

It will. Not in a timely manner, but eventually they will make it as easy as they did the Zodiak.

[Aomine1992]

the grind does not bother me i can block off a little time to grind each day but when I saw that crafting B****S I wanted to just give up even though I won't...

But SE please here me I am an adventurer/raider I do not and will not ever enjoy crafting it's not fun nor is it very rewarding (just look at all the crafter complaining threads) please try to do something different then what 2.0 relic was like...

[Milestailsprowe]

150 hours grinding through the same 4 fights is just terrible

[Neri]

Right now, I just accept it and go on with it. Just do the thing when I have the time. But the problem now though, is that with all those way to get your 3rd step done, you will have some kind of inventory problem? My god, what's with all those new beast tribes token, each of their own eating up your inventory space. Then those unidentified stuffs, and Precision Gordian stuffs...

God dang it, can't you get these off our inventory and put it in the key items slot or something?

[Melch]

Giving us something to do shouldn't mean putting in such a mindless grind for absolutely no reward in the end- they could have made this more interesting by adding better lore, better *methods* to obtain what was needed. Instead we have repetitive grinding that is going to kill anyone's desire to keep going. Only people with the time/in-game money/networks of people to help can actually make any headway into this, and this is just the first step. Even the original zodiac path wasn't this hellish and that was a painful grind on its own.

The better method to get relic would have made people cry even more. SE is handing relics at us on a silver plate and everyone is crying. Knowing you don't need to have a relic before March, it doesn't look like a huge grind.