Bowharp and the Death of RNG

[AceofRains]

So basically a spork.

yeah i guess you could say that. In that sense it would keep people from complaining about anything. People want their bards to have a dagger, while some want to see the bow wielding bard. You get you have your cake with a spoon and eat it with a fork. ;D

[AeraLucis]

the idea of having to play a job that's 100% different to your class if you wish to party is just absurd. It's like telling a player who loves tanking that his gladiator is going to become a white mage and if he wishes to tank he'll have to solo.

Wow. Just wow. So bard is going to play 100% different? So you don't think that you will still be firing arrows in-between casting a song buff or two? You don't think that any song buffs will have a buff duration? maybe of even at least 5 minutes? You don't think that maybe songs could be casted with TP instead of MP or nothing because that's the way it has to be done?

If you think as an Archer rolling with a Bard role on is still not going to do any damage then I think you're sorely mistaken. Even if you look at FFXI as a reference, Bard specific tasks only took a second or two and then you were back to curing with whitemage spells. I'm sure that Bard will not be 100% different as you say.

And the comparison to tanking a Gladiator and making him be a full on white mage is absurd. If anything it would be more like taking a player who loves tanking with his gladiator and telling him he's going to have to take on more healing responsibility and heal himself some more....oh dayum! did I just describe a paladin? wow, you're right. That idea would be crazy.

[goonMagi]

Just wanted to say the I LOVED the bard in ffxi and I hope to god they do not combine it with a completely different class.

If they do, I will have to seriously consider not playing. Redmage and Bard are two classes I am hoping they add into the game, and two classes I would simply expect to show up. Both are classics, and both have distinct, unique, and interesting characteristics that I love by themselves. Why in gods name would you ever combine archer/bard ? please tell me this is just some mistake, or a sad joke!

[User201109011315]

Why does everyone need official clarifications from the dev team like they are unable to think for themselves and interpret information available. You'll be waiting forever if you wait for devs to clarify stuff.

[Arcell]

Personally, I like the turn they've taken with it. To me it sounds like Bard will be decent damage @ max range + support skills. You've still got the bow part so you can still do damage, just not crazy stupid obnoxious damage. Honestly ranged classes shouldn't ever be doing the most damage, it makes close-range damage dealers a bit obsolete.

Honestly, the bow/harp kind of makes me want to go level Archer just so I can use it on Bard.

[User201109011315]

Just wanted to say the I LOVED the bard in ffxi and I hope to god they do not combine it with a completely different class.

If they do, I will have to seriously consider not playing. Redmage and Bard are two classes I am hoping they add into the game, and two classes I would simply expect to show up. Both are classics, and both have distinct, unique, and interesting characteristics that I love by themselves. Why in gods name would you ever combine archer/bard ? please tell me this is just some mistake, or a sad joke!

It all started when Yoshi took over and didn't realise that class=weapon/abilities and job=role.

So now both are combined into a mangled and bastardised hybrid class/job which we like to call archer/bard.

[Seikninkuru]

How about coming up with new shit instead of rehashing the same tired and boring classes/jobs used over and over?

Final Fantasy doesn't mean you have to have White Mages and Black Mages in it. It's 2011.

[Travesty]

How about coming up with new shit instead of rehashing the same tired and boring classes/jobs used over and over?

Final Fantasy doesn't mean you have to have White Mages and Black Mages in it. It's 2011.

Just cause it's 2011 doesn't mean it shouldn't have White Mages and Black Mages either, lol. I think most people don't find those boring.

[AceofRains]

It all started when Yoshi took over and didn't realise that class=weapon/abilities and job=role.

So now both are combined into a mangled and bastardised hybrid class/job which we like to call archer/bard.

Im pretty sure archer was just a fancy way for us English speakers to say bow-user. What we have here is a bow-using bard. A future class might take the form of what we know as archer or ranger, whereas they use aiming skills to cripple foes at a long range. I fail to see how anything is mangled, and i fail to see how any of this is difficult to grasp. there are plenty of games that you have a bow-bard, chill out because there are more jobs to come. Bard wont be the only bow user.

[Seikninkuru]

Just cause it's 2011 doesn't mean it shouldn't have White Mages and Black Mages either, lol. I think most people don't find those boring.

However the infatuation with regurgitating things like White Mage, Black Mage, Thief, Bard, Paladin, Ranger, (Dragoon?)... is what is contributing to the hodgepodge that seemingly is being thrown at us(I am wary at a significant lack of communication about what they're planning with the patch around the corner, when in the past they seem excited to share details).

Edit: And why does it have to be a white mage; isn't a white mage the same as <insert main healer in any other rpg>? Yes. So rather than expanding upon a role fulfilled in a party(healer, tank, rdps, mdps, CC[if applicable]), they are jamming the square pegs(jobs) into the round holes(classes).

I guess if you never look more than two feet in front of you, nothing going on seems amiss.