Relic line could be much worse.

[StrejdaTom]

So that's the way we will be going now? It could be worse?
"The game is only <add random amount of time> old," "the expansion is only <add random amount of time> old" excuses were definitely better.

It could be better, if they paid attention to the relic feedback they were getting trough 2.X.

People said they hated FATEs, Atmas, Crafts and here we are again. People said they liked 2.0 part with primal killing.

I know that many people have many tastes, I personally would go with the Atmas (or skip), 12 dungeons and then 10 BisEx, RavEx and ThordEX kills. Yup, these primals are hard to kill for some people, but they aren't anything that can't be done after a bit of effort and they are exactly the same thing people loved about old relic. OR they could.. I don't know.. maybe come up with something new? (I have no idea what, but I am no game developer, I don't get paid for ideas, I pay them + even if I had an idea, they wouldn't listen to that feedback anyways.)

This way would be challenging for some people and piece cake for the rest, which means we would get relic on day 1, which is unacceptable as the new relic is obviously meant to be huge timesink.

[SuperZay]

10 BisEx, RavEx and ThordEX kills. Yup, these primals are hard to kill for some people, but they aren't anything that can't be done after a bit of effort and they are exactly the same thing people loved about old relic.

At some point they switched to idea the relic should be obtainable by anyone as opposed to raid weapons otherwise there's no point to have 2 similar weapons obtainable by the same means.
As I play casually and randomly and don't have a static, I'd love to see books with a lot of non-challenging objectives covering all gameplay features, from killing certain hunt S ranks to winning a Seal Rock match.