you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Kerii]

I saw how easy the new relic was and decided I'll just keep going on the old one. A few extra steps and one month (at worst) won't kill me. I don't know what everyone else wanted... Time for power sans the rng. I'm ecstatic!

[Madjames]

I saw how easy the new relic was and decided I'll just keep going on the old one. A few extra steps and one month (at worst) won't kill me. I don't know what everyone else wanted... Time for power sans the rng. I'm ecstatic!

The ability to obtain my relic without relying on crafters to make them richer while us poor blokes get poorer.

[RyuDragnier]

The ability to obtain my relic without relying on crafters to make them richer while us poor blokes get poorer.

This right here. Enough with the crafting SE, nobody likes paying them extravagant prices for something that we should be able to get through our own power.

[Kerii]

The ability to obtain my relic without relying on crafters to make them richer while us poor blokes get poorer.

Money is actually pretty easy to make in this game. It's easier than any game I've ever played. Crafters have to buy things just like everyone else.

[Jinrya-Geki]

You know all these people saying "If you don't like the grind, stop". No one is complaining about a grind.

It's the same crap as 2.0. Why do it again?

It should be different. Maybe solve a hard puzzle, do some hard boss fights. Have a storyline for each relic rather than some bland blacksmith say "here you go".

Have unique dungeons that you can only do if you have the relics. Give the relics unique abilities like Blms get to use Comet when staff is equipped. God damn is it really that hard to think of this.

[Madjames]

Money is actually pretty easy to make in this game. It's easier than any game I've ever played. Crafters have to buy things just like everyone else.

Not the point. I have roughly 15 mil that I am saving to purchase three private small houses in the next week. I have made 40 mil from march of this year till now without a crafting or gathering class at all.

I do not care how easy it is to make money. I DO care about supplying crafters for overpriced stuff for a relic. These should have been able to be gotten all in game without relying on crafters, PERIOD!

I do not mind a time grind. That would have been ok. I am ok with t he alex grind, even the pointless, stupid, non- relevant old Poetics grind. I am NOT ok with on top of all of that crap that will take MONTHS to accomplish, I also have to make 5+ mil PER ITEM just for my relic. I would say 2-3 months worth of having to grind obsolete content + new content enough time put in to get a relic without the needed step of a crafter.

I make 5mil every 2-3 weeks. So how many items are there? What 4-5? Lets say 4 for arguments sake. Lets also be NICE and say all crafters will charge ONLY 5mil per item (We all know that these items will be closer to 10mil per item). That is 20mil gil to get. So again being nice and saying EVERYTHING sells on my 2 retainers and I make 5 mil every two weeks thats......8 weeks. So on top of the already 2-3 months worth of the initial grind I now have another 2 months on top of that? So roughly almost HALF A YEAR for me to get my relic.......Not acceptable.
(Disclaimer, I will NEVER craft in this game. Its lame and a sorry excuse for crafting so I refuse. Its boring and pointless)

[Kerii]

(Disclaimer, I will NEVER craft in this game. Its lame and a sorry excuse for crafting so I refuse. Its boring and pointless)

Well you got a laugh out of me, I guess that's something.

[Malakai]

Just think they could have made it where you needed to use eso to buy a new base relic weapon that you had to spirit bond to 100% then convert it via NPC for a RNG low % chance at a new Anima Materia to progress in quest. And then to bond it you had to get materials that were Key Items as a 10% RNG grind chance clearing the lvl60 dungeons. Then after that was done with your new melded relic in tow you had to go and do 10 new tomes (books) to strengthen the relic and do HW fates, mobs, and dungeons. After that the final stage would have been to trade 1,000 brass skypirate spoils for 1 gold skypirate spoil and you had to have 10 gold skypirate spoils to trade to Rowena for a new Key Item to enhance the relic to it's current final stage. :3

[Madjames]

Well you got a laugh out of me, I guess that's something.

Why is that funny? The crafting in this game is boring and lame. I should not be punished for the crappy time/gold sink pos they call crafting.

[Khaoticsuccubus]

Just think they could have made it where you needed to use eso to buy a new base relic weapon that you had to spirit bond to 100% then convert it via NPC for a RNG low % chance at a new Anima Materia to progress in quest. And then to bond it you had to get materials that were Key Items as a 10% RNG grind chance clearing the lvl60 dungeons. Then after that was done with your new melded relic in tow you had to go and do 10 new tomes (books) to strengthen the relic and do HW fates, mobs, and dungeons. After that the final stage would have been to trade 1,000 brass skypirate spoils for 1 gold skypirate spoil and you had to have 10 gold skypirate spoils to trade to Rowena for a new Key Item to enhance the relic to it's current final stage. :3

Don't worry, that'll be step 4. ;P