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    MasamuneBranford's Avatar
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    Masamune Branford
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    Sargatanas
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    I thought after 1.0 Yoshi-P preached listening to the players?

    95% of the player base hated the relic questline from 2.1 and Yoshi-P said on more than one occasion that he has read our comments and that the next relic questline would be different and less time consuming.

    What did we get for 3.1? The exact same thing (atmas, old dungeon runs, grinding currencies). I'm not even going to touch this travesty.
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    95% of the player base hated the relic questline from 2.1
    Keep in mind that the vast majority of the playerbase do not use these forums. These forums are populated by the vocal minority, primarily people who want somewhere to complain. Yoshida has many times given players exactly what people were asking for and been derided for doing so by another set of people who didn't want it. Players asked for something to grind toward to keep them busy, so we got the increasingly grindy relic quest. Players asked for incentive to do old content. Players asked for crafters to be able to make relevant items and not purely glamours. And so on.

    Just because you didn't get everything you wanted doesn't mean the devs are ignoring the playerbase.
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    Pterois Volitans
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    what have we forgot...

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    "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try."

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    Sileas Goode
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    Oh yoship listens. Selectively.
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    Player Terribad's Avatar
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    Moxie Desu
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    Diabolos
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    Yoshi actually listens, he takes what we ask for and then butchers it in some way. Like "We want more stat customization. Can we have materia in raid/tome gear?" "Yeah but only 2 slots no overmelds" .__.
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post

    Just because you didn't get everything you wanted doesn't mean the devs are ignoring the playerbase.
    When you are not getting what you wanted time and again, you have to think that maybe something is being missed here. Until the devs assure otherwise, this relic is not worth the time it took, and leaves a lot of the players its intended for without much hope of the future.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Miles Saintborough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terribad View Post
    Yoshi actually listens, he takes what we ask for and then butchers it in some way. Like "We want more stat customization. Can we have materia in raid/tome gear?" "Yeah but only 2 slots no overmelds" .__.
    Maybe we need to start intentionally suggest bad ideas since we're in opposite land with this game and its development.
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    Brizzyne Windsong
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    Bard Lv 80
    Unfortunately sometimes they are listening to the wrong suggestions. I am very irritated about the specialist only recipes implemented in 3.1 and 3.15. Specialists should get skills that let people who have not leveled all the crafts be able to craft similar to omincrafters. That is what specialization was said to be for. Making recipes exclusive is against the whole idea of being able to do everything on one character. This just forces those of us that like to craft to now have to level and gear crafting alts to be able to do what we used to be able to do with one character. (Note that this is also what annoys me about the whole 3 desynth thing as well.)
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    Callback Spanner
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    Ultros
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vasala View Post
    Unfortunately sometimes they are listening to the wrong suggestions. I am very irritated about the specialist only recipes implemented in 3.1 and 3.15. Specialists should get skills that let people who have not leveled all the crafts be able to craft similar to omincrafters. That is what specialization was said to be for. Making recipes exclusive is against the whole idea of being able to do everything on one character. This just forces those of us that like to craft to now have to level and gear crafting alts to be able to do what we used to be able to do with one character. (Note that this is also what annoys me about the whole 3 desynth thing as well.)
    We should just apply this to the rest of the game. New cap on combat levels: 200. 200 total combined levels across all combat classes. Reset one if you want to change. Also each class now earns its own flavor of tomestone when you use it, and you need all of the flavors combined to trade for anything.
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    Iromi's Avatar
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    Tilla Eversong
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    Siren
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Still waiting for those "interesting stats"...

    I dunno, I kind of gave up on anything is said regarding this game. Now I just play it and its whatever..don't even bother reading or watching stuff, like PLL etc (its all in japanese anyway) To me it seems like they backtracked way more then before 1.0.
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