you guys went overboard with this new relic

[Valoiz]

I am NOT going to do 600+ Alex / grind 50k laws , JUST NO!! normal runs! i am already bored of doing that, worst than Hero quest from L2 10 years ago.... just NO

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

MORE CLEAR FOR YOU DEV TEAM, THIS ISN`T FUN AT ALL, WE AREN`T JOKING.

[BossEpoch]

I have no life and even I don't have time for this. I have my Zeta weapon (or had, rip in literal pieces my bb) and I thought every step was fine, a few were kinda annoying, sure but they were still fun in their own way. The step to get it to zodiac was probably the worst for me but it made sense for it to be so rough because it was the penultimate form for your relic!

This stuff all sounds ten times worse than the Zodiac step and it's for the first bloody form. I was hoping for a charming quest line with my old buddy Gerolt, maybe I'd have to fight some sort of Allagan chimera-hydra monstrosity, that'd be fun! Oh wait, that would mean the dev team would have to make something. Oh... Nevermind......

My sub runs out in 5 days and I think I'll just leave it unsubbed for the foreseeable future.

[Nekodar]

If on December 23rd during the live letter Yoshi-P and his team make a decision to nerf the relic grind would you all do it? Or is it that a grind is a grind no matter how long or short it is and will continue to be bashed? Does anyone know what is going on in the EU and Japan forums?

If it is nerfed into something reasonable, I will do it. If they for example reduce from 20 tokens each to 5 tokens each, that would be a good step towards making it reasonable. Get rid of the crafted items part or make it be an optional way of obtaining the necessary items in addition to reducing from 20 to 5, that would be perfect.

[karateorangutang]

Well the good news is that the specifics of the quest are out early...

I'm just gonna slowly plug away at it and work on other means of attaining weapons. I haven't done any serious raiding in quite some time, but maybe it's time to start again.

So.... Thanks for the motivation SE?

[Dargonis]

the question isnt ease vs hardness because lets face it this isnt hard its mind numbing mundane stupid s**t i dont feel like in order to get my weapon i should have to be subjugated to doing beastmen, running normal alex and all that stuff whatsoever much less to the degree that yoshi has forced upon us. I log in to raid and do that, i do my main story to unlock the raid. i came back from taking a LONG afk from this game none of my beastmen are leveled and now your telling me its gonna take me a month on that stage because i have to grind that out to!?

[Lollerblades]

Personally I prefer this grind. No rng to it. Got a set goal and can work at your own pace.

If you don't like it don't do it :3

[Vespar]

I dunno why folks are griping so much. There are many ways to get the Token items --> https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._weapon_guide/

At least its not like they only did Beastman quests or worse Only hunts!

In fact, I actually think this is an okay system. Sure its grindy, but the next phase wont be out until likely 3.25 or later anyways. Besides, there will likely be other weapons along the way for those that dont have the time or patience to do anima weapons. Say for example the next phase of Alex or w/e.

[BossEpoch]

Personally I prefer this grind. No rng to it. Got a set goal and can work at your own pace.

If you don't like it don't do it :3

The first step is literally 100% RNG if you don't sacrifice your Zeta, what are you talking about.

[Lollerblades]

Sorry I was making reference to the last stage. I sacrificed a zeta so.....