Praetorium warning for new players?

[AriaEnia]

Last week I helped a friend clearing castrum and praetorium unsynced just 2 of us. I just solo everything with SMN and titan-egi, it's easy. Yeah the only way is to ask friends now, sadly.

[Devils_Lawyer]

Watching the cinematic and skip the fighting would be the best choice for a new player.

[Lone-wolfe-02]

Meh i once saw a newbie advertising prae on pf asking for no CS skipping. he was there for hours and not one person joined.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

No one would run MSQ Roulette if that was the case. As for the 30 mins Cutscene is fine at the end of the Duty Even the beginning is fine because if you don't like it, drop. Someone will take your place.

They would if the rewards was good enough. And I was referring to the cut scenes during both trials. Nice suggestion for new players though: "Hey, if you don't like having to skip every scene then take a 30 minute penalty."

[AriaEnia]

If you just give some of your time to your friends who just started the game. That's all they need.

[AnimaAnimus]

Jerks will be jerks, Regardless of what content or enviroment Square puts out, There will always be people who think you are on their time and abide by their rules.

To be fair that goes for both sides of this issue. Sorry if you have 2 hours to watch cutscenes, I don't and the fact you expect me to sit on my hands a wait as you read as slowly as humanly possible is asinine.

So who is in the right in this situation? No one. Its poor planning and a lack of common sense by SE.

Also this hasn't changed since a week after official launch. Even during the opening week people were skipping scenes and watching them later to get through fast.

[Blood-Aki]

To be fair that goes for both sides of this issue. Sorry if you have 2 hours to watch cutscenes, I don't and the fact you expect me to sit on my hands a wait as you read as slowly as humanly possible is asinine.

So who is in the right in this situation? No one. Its poor planning and a lack of common sense by SE.

Also this hasn't changed since a week after official launch. Even during the opening week people were skipping scenes and watching them later to get through fast.

To be fair that is NOT being fair, that is just displaying the typical selfish "i don't want to wait on you, so you shouldn't make me" bottom line is if waiting a few minutes while someone who is not you watches cut scenes in a ROLE PLAYING GAME bothers you, then you should consider playing other games that get straight to the point, selfish is selfish, No matter how you try to sugarcoat it.

[Raist]

To be fair that is NOT being fair, that is just displaying the typical selfish "i don't want to wait on you, so you shouldn't make me" bottom line is if waiting a few minutes while someone who is not you watches cut scenes in a ROLE PLAYING GAME bothers you, then you should consider playing other games that get straight to the point, selfish is selfish, No matter how you try to sugarcoat it.

But it is two sides of the same coin. In both scenarios, someone is forcing their will/playstyle on the group.

And it isn't just a "few minutes" wait either for some of those scenes. I've gone taken a dump, come back, still in the cut scene (yeah.. TMI, but you know those aren't always quick trips). Other times I've gone and heated up a cup of coffee, creamed and sugared it, threw together a snack and come back with people STILL in cut scenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VPLbImc084

In total, that runs close to 30 minutes worth of scenes until you defeat the final boss. Around 4.5 minutes just to start the first boss...like a 60-90 second fight these days.

[Kaiser-Ace]

But it is two sides of the same coin. In both scenarios, someone is forcing their will/playstyle on the group.

In total, it is close to 30 minutes worth of scenes until you defeat the final boss.

Yea, that was really lame when even with 8 fresh 50, AF1 wearing, all 1st time running it noobs back when the game first came out, Praetorium never took more than 10-15 minutes to completely destroy. But those Cutscenes artificially inflated it to an hour. Now that we have high level gear to back us up then with out the CSs it takes less than 10 minutes to wreak the place in a speed run. But those CSs STILL artificially inflate the run time.

I love rookies and all, and if I have the time I'll cue into a CS party via PF, but if I'm running for the tomes or EXP then every extra second I'm in there is a second I wasn't somewhere else that offers better rewards. And THAT is the "Skipper" mentality. Go fast so we can go somewhere else.

[Gilraen]

The problem isn't really about sides, that's been decided for you before you even log on. This is a multiplayer game, it's second M in MMORPG. By logging on you are agreeing to play with other players whether you like it or not. Thus the argument of 'two sides' is really an argument of 'me versus everyone else'. By forcing other players to play faster you are imposing yourself on their playtime, impacting their enjoyment every bit as much as they you. Conversely they can either choose to speed up or keep watching cutscenes and for all intents you have no say in the matter, just like they have no say in your want to play faster. So it boils down to patience. I have patience enough for someone to watch a cutscene, it barely takes any effort to wait. Just like I'm sure there were people patient enough for the jerks to watch the cutscenes when they were there their first times.