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  1. #161
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    AreeyaJaidee's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    the same article also mentioned rdm. It is possible that it could have been a longer term job for a different class. However, one can also imagine and archer being a bard.

    The main problem i think people have, is putting the two jobs together kind of lowers the chance of a more support heavy real instrument using bard, and it doesnt go with the idea that people have for archer. It would be fine if there was more than one option for archer, but if they can only be bard, its kind of sad.

    I think that is teh major problem with the job system as proposed. some things fit well, and others feel like they are forcing classes into jobs. Con->whm thm->blm and archer->brd? stand out. Not only do they kind of clash, but they lower the possibility of their being classes with a stronger synergy for those roles.

    Thm isnt really what most people want from a blm
    Con loses half its cool stuff if its a whm
    archer being brd isnt the type DD or support people might want for a bow user, and makes it so a true instrumentalist is unlikely.


    That said the pic is pretty awesome, and does still inspire me to play the system. But im a pug, and i love the FF monk concept. Even though they dont entirely intersect.

    honestly it would probably be better if these jobs had at least 2 alternatives for each. and maybe some added weapon choices for some jobs.
    pug could go monk or assassin
    gladiator fencer or paladin
    mrd war or bserker
    con whm or blm
    thm some 2 new things
    archer some actual bow based job and one more support oreinted.

    etc.


    Still overall pretty exciting pic.
    Yeah the pic is epic and beautiful looking forward to this content... All care about is BLM and WHM!

    THM should be RDM or THM + GLA
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    As to the argument that Arc does not equal Brd I have to point out that in XI bards eventually became puller and instruments are not weapons so it actually makes sense that a bard would use a bow with an instrument as a secondary item. I can't think of any game where the instrument was their actual weapon.
    Final Fantasy IV/V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee View Post
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    As to the argument that Arc does not equal Brd I have to point out that in XI bards eventually became puller and instruments are not weapons so it actually makes sense that a bard would use a bow with an instrument as a secondary item. I can't think of any game where the instrument was their actual weapon.
    Dont really care if ARC is BRD. Whatever BRD ends up being, it would be nice to have Instrument as a secondary instead of a retarded looking herp derp bow.

    Hey but some ppl will prolly like it. No difference to me because imma be a BLM!! xD
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    I don't see this BARD using a bow/harp in the last rank 46 cutscene. I see him using a dagger. I think bard will come when the right class comes out.
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    There are only two mages there. so this confirm CON = WHM and THM = BLM ..
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    FFXIV : ARR all instance boss gameplay video can be found here..
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  7. #167
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Final Fantasy IV/V.
    With respect two Pre-N64 RPGs Bard without a weapon was a viable option because the combat was not really animated.
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    Oh hi, I'll just leave this here for Square-Enix...



    don't mess it up SE!
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    There are only two mages there. so this confirm CON = WHM and THM = BLM ..
    That's not even close to confirmed.

    For THM to be BLM they would have to re-write half the game. I'm not saying they wont, but it's not likely.
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    It looks to me like the bard weapon is a bow that pulls apart to be a dagger and a harp. That is cool as hell.
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