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    Yoshi has said the 3.15 relic patch will be before xmas. That leaves this coming Tuesday the 15th or the 22nd of dec. The 15th I am starting to doubt as we have heard so little from them. The 22nd isn't the best start date for those in the west that may have a busy xmas planned.

    As I understand the 2 skips, it is if you have done one zeta you get the 2 skips. I have done 3 so I should be fine to get skips on 2 of the 3. The other thing on relic is the reward vs the grind. I would guess relic will end between 210 and possible 215. 215 because it makes a massive grind wroth the time. Down side to that is it reduces the value of current content 205 drops. I doubt 210 because when the tome weapon had the same or high ilvl as relic in 2.3. a lot of ppl stopped doing relic cause the grind at that time had no reward.

    Whatever the ending ilvl is, it seems they need to fix the df if it is needed for relic and a grind that won't burn ppl out. Many in my FC are on vacation from the game as they have burned out on the lack of reward vs grind in current content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millen1 View Post
    The other thing on relic is the reward vs the grind. I would guess relic will end between 210 and possible 215. 215 because it makes a massive grind wroth the time. Down side to that is it reduces the value of current content 205 drops. I doubt 210 because when the tome weapon had the same or high ilvl as relic in 2.3. a lot of ppl stopped doing relic cause the grind at that time had no reward.
    This is something that's been on my mind lately as well, and I'm starting to wonder if the Relic weapon will be a little weaker than we might like.

    The thing is, Yoshi-P and the Dev team already stated (way back during expansion release) that the new incarnation of the Relic weapon will not have the same level of difficulty to obtain as the original one. Given that the original weapon wasn't so much "difficult" to obtain as it was plan annoying (or outright infuriating), a lower difficulty would seem to imply less grind (we can hope). If this is true, the good news would be that the parts that we all hated to do over and over and over when obtaining our original relics will be either gone or dramatically less painful (again, we can hope). The bad news is that SE could scale the reward we receive to the lower difficulty.

    One of the problems with the original relic was that it didn't keep up with end-game raid weapons (until Zeta came along). The grind was often not worth the reward, especially in the Atma stage. If SE sticks to their guns and lowers the "difficulty" of obtaining the new relic, then a lower than end-game level reward might be justified. Which means we could see an item level as low as 205 in the earliest stages. I really hope not (I would really love to see the Relic be able to compete with Raid content, like custom Zeta's did), but given that SE is allowing previous Zeta holders to skip the first stage, and they have indicated that it will be easier to obtain for new players (both of these things also indicate that custom stats will not be available in the entry stages of the weapon), I don't think they're gonna hand out ilvl 210-215 weapons right off the bat. It would be awesome if they did, and I really hope they do, but I'm not going to hold my breath. Not yet, anyway.
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