starting to lose interest in this game sadly

[CrystalRainbow]

Last week was my 1st week not to cap eso after unlocking them. Really hope having something to work for will help Cheer relic 3.XXX

[basketofseals]

I think the main issue people have with the cash shop is the game is feeling more and more like a F2P game like GW2/Wildstar/etc. that have extensive cosmetic cash shops...the big difference is that FF14 charges a mandatory monthly fee on top of that. I honestly don't care for anything in the cash shop that I can't get in game (namely, the dyes) but the day "item X" appears that I really want to be able to earn in game for my time/sub fee I might get upset as well - in other words, I understand why people are slowly getting more and more angry over the cash shop expansion. Honestly, it is bad enough a subscription game has the audacity to charge for in game storage...it is pretty ridiculous. They even heavily restrict alts to make it a pain in the @#$@ to use them as storage just to rub salt in the wound.

I understand why people are kind of upset over the cash shop+subscription, but let's try to put things into perspective. 15 dollars a month was what Vanilla WoW charged, and FFXIV has maybe 10% of the subscribers. Are we really paying that much considering this game has a much higher quality in graphics and storyline? Not to mention the cost of developing for PC and PS3/4.

[SinisterJointss]

To all the people who are saying that all the stuff in the cash shop is meaningless because it's just cosmetic; that is outright selfish. What is important to you might be worth a damn to others.

- If they were to place "Enhanced" Gordian i210 pieces in the cash shop and just reward i200 dyeable gear in Savage, raiders would be furious.
- If they were to place the latest PvP equipment in the cash shop instead of having it available through in game currency, that portion of the playerbase would be furious
- For crafters, items needed for the red scripts crafts or even the gear itself, you get the idea...

There are people whose "endgame" is glamours, or minion collections, or mount collections. Coming here to say "what you like is not that important, it's fine" is nothing but, again, selfish.

I only need to say this once to all 3 of your pointless arguments

IT AFFECTS GAMEPLAY

[Bourne_Endeavor]

So items that serve an entirely cosmetic purpose and have no actual affect on gameplay beyond you not being able to acquire every pretty item in-game makes you lose interest? Damn. With DLC so rampant in console gaming, I think you need a new hobby if that's the case. ;P

[Joeking]

You know how they could make a killing in sales, Put skimpy bikini glamours in the cash shop.

If I've learnt anything people are willing to "Pay to S..."

[Bourne_Endeavor]

To all the people who are saying that all the stuff in the cash shop is meaningless because it's just cosmetic; that is outright selfish. What is important to you might be worth a damn to others.

- If they were to place "Enhanced" Gordian i210 pieces in the cash shop and just reward i200 dyeable gear in Savage, raiders would be furious.
- If they were to place the latest PvP equipment in the cash shop instead of having it available through in game currency, that portion of the playerbase would be furious
- For crafters, items needed for the red scripts crafts or even the gear itself, you get the idea...

There are people whose "endgame" is glamours, or minion collections, or mount collections. Coming here to say "what you like is not that important, it's fine" is nothing but, again, selfish.

Except those examples all contribute to someone else receiving an advantage if they choose to spend money. Say I wanted to compete in PVP. I would be forced to either grind for the new gear or purchase them. You wanting glamour pieces offers no such consequences to other players.

[Kosmos992k]

i dont know what it is but really starting to lose interest in the game and all this cash shop stuff is pushing me further away i get that they wanted to make more money but i would rather pay a higher amount for a sub fairly with everyone else rather then all the rich kids getting the best stuff i know its cosmetic stuff but still

If something so slight and meaningless can ruin the game for you, then I have to wonder how much you like the game in the first place...

[Felis]

Because glamour is the true endgame? The only thing that lasts, the things you get PSTs about, it's all glamour. The one and only true form of endgame.

True hardcore glamourers farm their gears ingame. Not many would use the Scion outfits for their endgame glamour set. They are just not BiS (Best in Style) enough. Cash gear is for casual glamourers who don't have time for gear farming statics.

[Iskander]

"What if they did something completely unlike what they are doing and that they said they won't do!? Well, What then!?"

Is basically what you are saying

Which is kinda...pointless/

Sooo....about 60-70% of content announcements for FFXIV?

Game companies are in business to Make Money, nothing more. If their product Pleases the Public, so much the better.

Game does not please the public. Public becomes furious. Word of mouth and reviews give game a bad reputation. Game stops generating profit. Failure.
Game pleases public. Public becomes happy. Word of mouth and reviews give game a good reputation. Game continues to generate profit. More development is done for content for game. Success.

Sort of, he listed a handful of other people that need wages too and brought up some other expenses. It doesn't mean they aren't making loads off of our subs already, and that they don't really need the cash shop purchases. They are a cash grab, because yes they are in the business of making money.

They company, in business of making money, will charge as much as they can to make money. The consumers, in the business of saving money, will try to limit how much they can charge us. Consumers do this through consumer feedback (like this thread) and consumer demand. Rolling over and saying they want to make money, so here take it, is very poor consumer behavior and not at all how a capitalist economy works.

Partly this. They makes enough in subs in order to pay the FFXIV staff. Before the cash shop, they paid their staff while subs were incoming. The number of subs has only increased since that point. The FFXIV team has not substantially increased by any significant margin. That is the thanks of SE's board.

When the cash shop released, they said the funds were going to the European Data Center stuff. After the success of the cash shop, dollar signs appeared in their eyes and they turned it into a cash grab.

[Mancub22]

This game already has a pay to win feature. If being able to buy more retainers isn't pay to win I don't know what is.