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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Soooo, basically FF13-3's plot?
    Honestly I haven't played lightning returns. The only ff13 I played was the original (didn't even touch 13-2).

    So I'll just uh, take your word on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodkr View Post
    Honestly I haven't played lightning returns. The only ff13 I played was the original (didn't even touch 13-2).

    So I'll just uh, take your word on it.
    Basically The Gods are evil and since the Gods are evil, light kills the Gods to make a human world without Gods deciding their fate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    Basically The Gods are evil and since the Gods are evil, light kills the Gods to make a human world without Gods deciding their fate.
    It's a bit more nuanced than that, but I don't have 200 pages to explain. Freaking Nojima.
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    あっきれた。

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    It's a bit more nuanced than that, but I don't have 200 pages to explain.
    Evangalion had similar themes and just as much nuance (Freaking Anno), but I think like that and XIII, XIV is gonna dive into Gnostic/Demiurge themes anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    It's a bit more nuanced than that, but I don't have 200 pages to explain. Freaking Nojima.
    Said that right. >_>

    That trilogy was more full of holes than a kingdom hearts fanfiction.
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    My preferred interpretation, though, is that even Lightning realizes her trilogy is an unnecessary and overly-complicated mess, and decides the only way to keep it from degenerating further is to kill the Creator Himself, who as an added bonus wants to make her into his immortal waifu, and relocate everyone to a world outside the confines of the narrative.
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    I kinda have Evangelion vibes, especially from the Ascien. Actually even Xenogears kinda come close with the whole mass extinction event in order for each iteration of the humans to be genetically viable for re-absorption of Deus/ it's creator

    I have a feeling that the "Ardor"/ rejoining pretty caused mass "death" in that everyone gets absorbed into Zodiark and become part of it's being.

    While Hydaelyns world is physical, thus resulting in having to understand each other. Zodiarks world will be incorporeal and that everyone is connecting on a spiritual level
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Zodiarks world will in corporeal and that everyone is connecting on a spiritual level
    But...corporeal means it has a body, so that would be the same as Hydaelyn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    But...corporeal means it has a body, so that would be the same as Hydaelyn.
    lol, i meant incorporeal
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    And now I have the headcannon that is a based off Eva and the origina of XI's own races. All Life originates from one or both of of the Crystals (Zodiark and Hydaelyn) and the Ascians seek to bring all life into a Hivemind with Zodiark as the "queen".
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