[dev1017] Materia crafting system & Materia: A Matter of Mystery (08/26/2011)

[Dargoth_Draconia]

Grand Company vs Grand Company or Nation vs Nation would be pretty awesome

[drivendawn]

okay lol put a NM battle and crafting on same video on youtube then ask at the end which one takes more skill? bet it won't be crafting. =/

[DGMart]

so you would rather be forced to lvl crafts AND do raids for the best gear? to slot R/E gear you would have to lvl the craft yourself. This system is supposed to be about compromise. Not everyone likes repeating the same shitty raid with random groups. Your gear will be good, and so will mine, and i dont have to do the same thing as you.

That's not what I said at all. Please read my two posts. There shouldn't be a compromise at all. This game is a mmo not a solo rpg. Crafting is a solo activity. People who craft all day everyday that dont participate in any kind of Dow/Dom are no better than rmt IMO. Now if they added activities that involve gathering crafting and Dow/Dom like guildwars 2 then that's another story. If you want to make things fair like you suggested then all gear should be able to add material to it. Everyone knows that some HQ gear is already better than to NM Dungeon gear so why even have dungeons in the first place? All I'm asking for is make stats of gear worth it from NM's if we are not allowed to add material or let us add material to already mediocre dungeon gear. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

[akumutensai]

That's not what I said at all. Please read my two posts. There shouldn't be a compromise at all. This game is a mmo not a solo rpg. Crafting is a solo activity. People who craft all day everyday that dont participate in any kind of Dow/Dom are no better than rmt IMO. Now if they added activities that involve gathering crafting and Dow/Dom like guildwars 2 then that's another story. If you want to make things fair like you suggested then all gear should be able to add material to it. Everyone knows that some HQ gear is already better than to NM Dungeon gear so why even have dungeons in the first place? All I'm asking for is make stats of gear worth it from NM's if we are not allowed to add material or let us add material to already mediocre dungeon gear. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

It's a good point if I understand correctly. You are concerned that since anyone can buy/sell gear with materia, people buying gil or making mad loot from craftin/gathering are going to have best gear. Which will encourage rmt and discourage people from doing raids for weaker gear. i think thats what you mean? so you suggest that Ra/ex gear be capable of attaching materia. i dont see what the big deal is about that, but i think HQ forbidden would still be stronger thus making your suggestion worthless unless they balance HQ gear to be weaker than raid gear

edit: but then i guess you suggested that at the end. i think simply that you should not be able to obtain the best gear in the game from your wallet. you should have to earn it.

[Lienn]

Now PvP and dual wield...the bad news never end...

Where's my spin-off game so i can just ragequit this one and go back to original FFXIV? ; ;

[Holland]

Now PvP and dual wield...the bad news never end...

Where's my spin-off game so i can just ragequit this one and go back to original FFXIV? ; ;

Lienn, really. I think you might want to take a break from the game. I am sad to say you are starting to sound like Gifthorse =/

There are some things you can not deny:

~The general view is this is moving in the right direction.
~Not everyone will be happy with the changes
~You are not happy with some changes and keep asking for ... I'm not sure what you are asking for...

If its a game tailored to you or anyone, me included, I dont believe this will happen. As long as Square keeps seeing the general positive change in the players they will keep this same direction.

And if I may ask. What is stopping you from rage quitting now? Are you expecting the Developers to "realize" their mistake before "it's too late"?

And keep in mind, if they go back to the original FFXIV you will probably enjoy for... Um... two weeks before they shut down the servers?

[Estellios]

What's so bad about dual wield? It's been in tons of FFs.

[DGMart]

It's a good point if I understand correctly. You are concerned that since anyone can buy/sell gear with materia, people buying gil or making mad loot from craftin/gathering are going to have best gear. Which will encourage rmt and discourage people from doing raids for weaker gear. i think thats what you mean? so you suggest that Ra/ex gear be capable of attaching materia. i dont see what the big deal is about that, but i think HQ forbidden would still be stronger thus making your suggestion worthless unless they balance HQ gear to be weaker than raid gear

edit: but then i guess you suggested that at the end. i think simply that you should not be able to obtain the best gear in the game from your wallet. you should have to earn it.

Exactly, now we are on the same track... I mean if you want to risk putting materia on rare/exc gear that should be your choice. If it breaks it breaks, that's something you'll have to live with. But at least give us the option to do so.

[User201109011315]

Lienn, really. I think you might want to take a break from the game. I am sad to say you are starting to sound like Gifthorse =/

Hey! I happen to like dual wield and PvP.

Both of these are "additions".

My main point of contention is with "subtractions" or "mutilations", which is pretty much most of what SE has been doing to FFXIV.

I don't see how you can fault them for bringing in Dual wield and PvP, since they scarcely impact upon any other aspect of the game.

[Lienn]

Lienn, really. I think you might want to take a break from the game. I am sad to say you are starting to sound like Gifthorse =/

There are some things you can not deny:

~The general view is this is moving in the right direction.
~Not everyone will be happy with the changes
~You are not happy with some changes and keep asking for ... I'm not sure what you are asking for...

If its a game tailored to you or anyone, me included, I dont believe this will happen. As long as Square keeps seeing the general positive change in the players they will keep this same direction.

And if I may ask. What is stopping you from rage quitting now? Are you expecting the Developers to "realize" their mistake before "it's too late"?

And keep in mind, if they go back to the original FFXIV you will probably enjoy for... Um... two weeks before they shut down the servers?

In short, FFXIV offered an unique gaming proposal, which i loved. That's it. About the current changes, i hate FFXI with passion. That's it. No need to think too much. If i love dogs and hate cats and my parents replace my dog with a cat, i'll be pissed...simple enough. I can easily deal with the cat as soon as i have my dog, but seems like just adding a cat isn't enough here...they HAD to get rid of the dog.

And about the original FFXIV, i'd LOVE seeing the "2 weeks" before the servers shutting down...specially when its population start beating this FF population.

What's so bad about dual wield? It's been in tons of FFs.

The thing is...dual wield had been in many FFs and it never ever was a balanced feature...and i doubt it will be different here.