AST's weakness in end game

[Yhisa]

I got idea since all those claiming AST is fine go run double as in savage 1 in noct sect the other in diurnal sect ... Now since we are mimics of whm/ sch we should be able to do it no problem at all ... I want video prove of it linked on thos forum....until then ast needs a major rework with its identity and not shadow whm/sch and copy there regens/shield.. Or fairy/divine seal (cough synasty) .... Yes we can do content because we are being carried by the SCH or the WHM.... Ast on it self cannot do it.. Try it with double ast and u will see the problems we have ... So until then just suck it up at wait for changes towards ast

[Risvertasashi]

I got idea since all those claiming AST is fine go run double as in savage 1 in noct sect the other in diurnal sect ... Now since we are mimics of whm/ sch we should be able to do it no problem at all

Well, this is wrong because noct stance does not mimic SCH. It mimics a WHM with shields rather than HoTs. SCH is much, much more than just shields.

All that said AST can replace WHM pretty handily. And yes, WHM + noct AST in A3S works (though I prefer SCH). Not sure on A4S but I bet someone's done it.

[TatoRazzino]

I got idea since all those claiming AST is fine go run double as in savage 1 in noct sect the other in diurnal sect ... Now since we are mimics of whm/ sch we should be able to do it no problem at all ... I want video prove of it linked on thos forum....until then ast needs a major rework with its identity and not shadow whm/sch and copy there regens/shield.. Or fairy/divine seal (cough synasty) .... Yes we can do content because we are being carried by the SCH or the WHM.... Ast on it self cannot do it.. Try it with double ast and u will see the problems we have ... So until then just suck it up at wait for changes towards ast

If you're being carried, that's your problem, not the job's. If you feel like you're being carried when playing AST, you'd be carried by your healing partner if you were playing any other job. Using double WHM in savage offers no mitigation, which will be a problem in A3S for example, and running double SCH is more stressful than running double AST, because AoE healing becomes a problem when Emergency Tactics/Indomitability is burned (and I'm not even mentioning the fact that the Aetherflow stack system will reduce healing output by a lot if the SCH has no WHM or AST to back them up). No one runs double AST not because it isn't possible, but because it's stupid to take double jobs to ANY content in the game; using double jobs only stacks weaknesses, since all the strengths are covered when one person playing the job is there.

[AzureFlare]

I got idea since all those claiming AST is fine go run double as in savage 1 in noct sect the other in diurnal sect ... Now since we are mimics of whm/ sch we should be able to do it no problem at all ... I want video prove of it linked on thos forum....until then ast needs a major rework with its identity and not shadow whm/sch and copy there regens/shield.. Or fairy/divine seal (cough synasty) .... Yes we can do content because we are being carried by the SCH or the WHM.... Ast on it self cannot do it.. Try it with double ast and u will see the problems we have ... So until then just suck it up at wait for changes towards ast

Fine, know what? Just started rebooting our casual scrub static. Got a new AST healer who loves it and likes Nocturnal, I myself do not intend to switch to WHM/SCH.
Challenge accepted. Probably also challenge failed, but at least we'll have some good fun instead of going with a tryhard composition and questioning whether or not we're enjoying the game. And meh, AST can pretty much soloheal A1S, A2S is doable too, why not A3S or A4S. We 'overgear the content' anyway, if it is up to the massive crowd of nay-sayers still stuck on A3S with said overgeared sets.

I'll definitely disagree that an AST 'gets carried by the SCH or WHM' though, that's just plain wrong. For the sole reason an AST can replace a WHM in savage just fine, unless you're claiming a WHM too is being carried by SCH.