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    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Truth be told, there's not a move that I do not use in the Warrior toolkit(yes, I even have Foresight macro'd to Bloodbath so I only have to double tap the controller button for both to take effect). Few things I've taken notice here in this thread;

    "Unchained" is now the default opener when MT, OT saves for big damage phases where you want to switch to Defiance for Equilibrium/Thrill of Battle yet not lose too much DPS.
    "Fracture" is easily thrown in when you have 5 stacks, and before you Heavy Swing>Fellcleave/Inner Beast(Especially when Berserk is up) without a dps loss.
    If there is one Warrior action that falls under this list, it's Raw Intuition, not because it doesn't get used so much as it gets used as often as it's up for a Wrath Stack more so than the actual action's ability(pfft Parry xD)

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    Blk Mage- Thunder II gets no love
    -Freeze(outside of PVP and SA2/T5 to take care of wayward adds)
    MCH- Suppressive Fire once you get Head Shot
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    If Thunder 2 gets no love I must be the only BLM that actively uses it for DoT spread on opening pulls. If anything I don't use Thunder 1.

    Yeah Freeze is kinda bad. The one chance to add a frozen staus effect for players and they muck it up with a bind that won't work in the endgame content.
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    Player Iagainsti's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    If Thunder 2 gets no love I must be the only BLM that actively uses it for DoT spread on opening pulls. If anything I don't use Thunder 1.
    Black mage is not my main; I did just level it for PvP, I was always under the assumption Thunder I was a better spreader due to cheaper mp cost/faster cast time. Again, just an alt, so what do I know. I'll have to try it in a trial roulette or something.

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    Blk Mage- Thunder I gets no love
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    If there is one Warrior action that falls under this list, it's Raw Intuition, not because it doesn't get used so much as it gets used as often as it's up for a Wrath Stack more so than the actual action's ability(pfft Parry xD)
    Wat? I get that RI gets used for stacks when it matters, but how is it bad as a defensive cooldown? Its guaranteed Parrying for 20s, that's a lot of mitigation provided you don't let the boss hit your ass which no tank should be doing anyway...

    "pfft Parry xD" Jabs at parry aren't funny, clever, or original. I dunno why everyone cracks little joke-y insults at it as if they're the first person to communicate the fact that it isn't all that great of a stat, and I'm further perplexed at your doing so in the one context where Parry is unequivocally good (Raw Intuition)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyyy View Post
    correct
    Take it from people that main the job. The only time a DRK drops a raw-dogged C&S during single-target DPS is when they fucked up. I've done it, and I'm the first to say that it was a fuck-up; either a fat-fingering, or a necessary measure due to mismanaging/being overzealous with DA/MP earlier in the fight.

    If its a matter of MP and C&S causing you to miss out on DP or DA SE, consider this burst I've been using while farming thordan on the big meteor (order of abilities affected by previous usage/recast):

    Salted Earth <Scourge> DA + Blood Weapon <Hard Slash> Plunge <Syphon> Low Blow <Souleater> DA <Hardslash> C&S + DP <Syphon> DA <Souleater> Sole Survivor - Meteor Dead

    Two DA Souleater rotations with a DA Carve and DP woven in between. I leave that meteor between 5K and full MP.

    Its not about turtle tanking or dps tanking, its about resource management, pls l2doit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Wat? I get that RI gets used for stacks when it matters, but how is it bad as a defensive cooldown? Its guaranteed Parrying for 20s, that's a lot of mitigation provided you don't let the boss hit your ass which no tank should be doing anyway...

    "pfft Parry xD" Jabs at parry aren't funny, clever, or original. I dunno why everyone cracks little joke-y insults at it as if they're the first person to communicate the fact that it isn't all that great of a stat, and I'm further perplexed at your doing so in the one context where Parry is unequivocally good (Raw Intuition)...


    Seriously though; "RI is up! I don't have to heal as much" said no healer ever. I have RI and Awareness macro'd together like I should, but it really amounts to overhealing, so yes; it is nothing more than a glorified stack builder.
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    Last edited by Iagainsti; 12-03-2015 at 05:52 AM.

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