3.15 relic will require items that randomly drop from the following mobs:

[Eidolon]

Whatever the relic grind actually is, one thing is guaranteed:

People will find a way to bitch about it.

No one really bitched about the original relic did they? (up to i90. Maybe at worst someone was sad they had to choose because they could only get the i80 version but... that's about it.)

It's the stupid grind they put after the awesome quest for the original relics that people hated.

[Deathscythe343]

No one really bitched about the original relic did they? (up to i90. Maybe at worst someone was sad they had to choose because they could only get the i80 version but... that's about it.)

It's the stupid grind they put after the awesome quest for the original relics that people hated.

I would say this is pretty accurate. For the most part, the amount of work one would need to put into to get the weapon was about right. The upgrades that followed, were extremely out of balance.

[Dualblade]

No one really bitched about the original relic did they? (up to i90. Maybe at worst someone was sad they had to choose because they could only get the i80 version but... that's about it.)

It's the stupid grind they put after the awesome quest for the original relics that people hated.

I think there was some complaining about it being the same ilvl as raid weapons or something, but for actually getting the weapon the i80 was pretty good...and i90 was just too easy (not that I'm complainin about that).

[Ashkendor]

No one really bitched about the original relic did they? (up to i90. Maybe at worst someone was sad they had to choose because they could only get the i80 version but... that's about it.)

It's the stupid grind they put after the awesome quest for the original relics that people hated.

Actually, there was a fair amount of bitching that the relic weapons could even go to i90 if I remember correctly.

That's the whole reason the Allagan weapons were made to be i95.

[Eidolon]

Actually, there was a fair amount of bitching that the relic weapons could even go to i90 if I remember correctly.

That's the whole reason the Allagan weapons were made to be i95.

Right, but no one complained about the quest itself to obtain them.

Meanwhile, people take one look at Atma in its original conception and get diarrhea from the sheer amount of bull****.

[Indiction]

Everyone's worrying about the difficulty in getting them and I'm over here hoping my SCH book doesn't like like absolute shite >#<

[Kit-Kat]

Everyone's worrying about the difficulty in getting them and I'm over here hoping my SCH book doesn't like like absolute shite >#<

Lmao, same here.

[AstralKaos]

Everyone's worrying about the difficulty in getting them and I'm over here hoping my SCH book doesn't like like absolute shite >#<

Already feeling meh on my weapon, if the item icon image was anything to go by anyway, as it's yet another NIN weapon that is neither in a kodachi, nor in a wakizashi style. Please add more of these types, the fact there's only two of them in the whole game for the ninja class, of all things, is upsetting when compared to the magnitude of other types of blades for them from other parts of the world.

My other class, MNK, usually has garbo looking stuff so I didn't check, but I always use either Sphairai Atma or Fangs of the Fallen Dragon so, I'm okay.

[Ashkendor]

Right, but no one complained about the quest itself to obtain them.

Meanwhile, people take one look at Atma in its original conception and get diarrhea from the sheer amount of bull****.

When I said that people will find a way, I meant exactly that - they'll bitch about the relic in some way, shape, or form.

The quest itself, the secondary stats, the item level... yup. xD

Everyone's worrying about the difficulty in getting them and I'm over here hoping my SCH book doesn't like like absolute shite >#<

inb4 sch book is piety/spell speed and whm staff and astro globe both have crit. :3

Devs don't like schs to have crit. :3

[Dgsoil]

No one really bitched about the original relic did they? (up to i90. Maybe at worst someone was sad they had to choose because they could only get the i80 version but... that's about it.)

It's the stupid grind they put after the awesome quest for the original relics that people hated.

Lots of whining about how hard Titan Hard was originally as well from what I remember, because dat latency check