Midgardsormrs children question... (post-HW so thread may contain spoilers)

[CyrilLucifer]

No, it's not a FFVII reference. Dear God, Sephirot predates VII's Sephiroth by at least 2000 years, the term has religious connotations.

It's a reference to the Triad; I believe it was the Fiend who was originally called Sephirot in the original design artwork from FFVI.

[Ziatrix]

One thing that I'm surprised about is how nobody's really looked closely at Tiamat's colouration. The concept art is actually accurate, which also helps point out which dragon is Ratatoskr, if the horns aren't enough.

Tiamat actually has green on her - the only issue is that for all intents and purposes it looks as if her main colour has become, well, discoloured for a lack of better word. If I knew how to post images, I'd definitly put one up, otherwise if you want confirmation, her tail is the best place to look at, along with her wings.

Also, having a closer look at Tiamat and the various things impaling her is quite disturbing.

[Frederick22]

One thing that I'm surprised about is how nobody's really looked closely at Tiamat's colouration. The concept art is actually accurate, which also helps point out which dragon is Ratatoskr, if the horns aren't enough.

Tiamat actually has green on her - the only issue is that for all intents and purposes it looks as if her main colour has become, well, discoloured for a lack of better word. If I knew how to post images, I'd definitly put one up, otherwise if you want confirmation, her tail is the best place to look at, along with her wings.

Also, having a closer look at Tiamat and the various things impaling her is quite disturbing.

On earlier posts here, we determine who was Ratatoskr. Dont pay much more attention to the colors of the dragons on the concept art, only their looks.

[Ziatrix]

On earlier posts here, we determine who was Ratatoskr. Dont pay much more attention to the colors of the dragons on the concept art, only their looks.

Oh, I know, I know, it's just some more proof I wanted to throw around. I've been studying that image waaaay before I saw this thread, as I would like the chance to draw an accurate, or at least semi-accurate, Ratatoskr. :3

Also I agree, concept art is never really the greatest representation for accurate colour schemes.

[Frederick22]

Oh, I know, I know, it's just some more proof I wanted to throw around. I've been studying that image waaaay before I saw this thread, as I would like the chance to draw an accurate, or at least semi-accurate, Ratatoskr. :3

Also I agree, concept art is never really the greatest representation for accurate colour schemes.

On the heavensward cutscenes we saw a medieval paint of Ratatoskr. On the picture we see a dragon with 4 horns. Based that is not Nidhoog , we can asume which one is on the concept art. Also Ratatoskr is between his 2 brrod brothers that we saw on the expansion.

[DarthSanguine]

Something possibly new to add to the discussion... in 3.1 new sightseeing log entries were added, including one for The Cathedral in Azys Lla. The description reads as such;


Given that the structure is Meracydian, what if Sephirot is actually one of Midgardsormr's seven brood? We already have evidence of the firstbrood being worshipped in the past with Bahamut, and the moogles in the Churning Mists are practically willing servants/guardians for Hraesvelgr. The "tribe of treelike" beings could be something similar.

Nope, it's a reference to the Warring Triad. The FF wikia says this:

"In the original concept artwork by Tetsuya Nomura, the Warring Triad are named beyond their basic titles: The Goddess is Sophia, the Demon is Zurvan, and the Fiend is Sephiroth.

Sophia, Greek for wisdom, is a central idea in Hellenistic philosophy and religion, Platonism, Gnosticism, Orthodox Christianity, Esoteric Christianity, as well as Christian mysticism, and is commonly represented as a goddess. Sophia is also a primary deity in Gnosticism.

In Zurvanism, Zurvan is the god of infinite time (and space) and is Aka Manah ("one", "alone") deity of matter.

Səphīrōth (סְפִירוֹת, medieval Hebrew form of Sephirot), is a plural noun in Hebrew; the singular is Sephirah (also spelled Sefira). The Sephiroth are described in the Kabbalah as the manifestations of God that allow Him to manifest in the physical and metaphysical universes. Sephiroth also means "counting" (of numbers).

Each of the three names represents the highest levels of knowledge and power in their respective religions."

[Zohar_Lahar]

So revised:

Thinking on the unidentified dragons, the one with a narwhal-like tusk (circled in blue) has a distinct yellow coloration, which leads me to wonder if it is based on the Yellow Dragon (Huanglong / Ouryu).