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  1. #21
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylkis View Post
    Strange, I always see the holmgang chain stretch really long. They must be not following me
    Their purify has been on CD propably(or they dont know it works on holm snare), those pesky summoners kinda forces purify use if you dont want to get bursted :P

    PS: What makes this even better is that even when purify removes holm self-snare it doesnt remove its effect from target, so it can work as an escape skill if you purify yourself as soon as you casted it.
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    Last edited by Synestra; 11-20-2015 at 07:46 PM.

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    GrumbleBeard's Avatar
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    Severa Nanase
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 90
    I think a lot of people don't utilize Diurnal AST enough. I know it can be fun to run around as a nigh unkillable damage sponge, but you can pump out some good healing and really help with cross healing with the regens, and you can still escape some pretty silly situations if you can sprint + lightspeed heal yourself.
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  3. #23
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    Sylkis Tea
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    Sophia
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard View Post
    I think a lot of people don't utilize Diurnal AST enough. I know it can be fun to run around as a nigh unkillable damage sponge, but you can pump out some good healing and really help with cross healing with the regens, and you can still escape some pretty silly situations if you can sprint + lightspeed heal yourself.
    The regen pales in comparison to the shields when those shields wear off almost instantly, WHM is better at regen
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  4. #24
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    Severa Nanase
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylkis View Post
    The regen pales in comparison to the shields when those shields wear off almost instantly, WHM is better at regen
    AST regen stacks with WHMs, and assuming the enemy isn't focusing you, you can do much more with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard View Post
    I think a lot of people don't utilize Diurnal AST enough. I kno w it can be fun to run around as a nigh unkillable damage sponge, but you can pump out some good healing and really help with cross healing with the regens, and you can still escape some pretty silly situations if you can sprint + lightspeed heal yourself.
    I prefer diural over noct stance, lately i tend to double buff my team before going in. Your certainly right you can still survive some hairy situations without noct.
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  6. #26
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    Sylkis Tea
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard View Post
    assuming the enemy isn't focusing you
    This thread assumes they are


    WHM regen also stacks with itself I think? Yes, regen in general is better for a (unorganised df) party.
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  7. #27
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    WHM regens don't stack in PvP.
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  8. #28
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    Rhyo Bjorn
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylkis View Post
    I don't think berserk full swing double fell cleave can kill alone(melee lb for 9k doesn't, seen fell cleave crit for 4.5k)

    As you said, you need a coordinated group to kill one. But to be fair, it would still be even if the AST has a coordinated group the urge.
    I did double fell clave first 5k and inmediatly after 7.4k and Astro go down, maybe because i make a combination of full critic accesories and gear, but yes no always can destroy by myself an Astrologian if he/she percives i'll go against him/her. I always try, but, because some times the enormous inesperate critical damage deal suprised or they don't expected so much and kill fast, like i say if "supercombo" isn't enough and haven't some good dps to finish him the best action is ignore astrologian or if they must heal his companions then yes, burst him so they must decide selfconservation and let others die or try to save the other healer/tank and died bursted.
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  9. #29
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    Glyn Penman
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by GrumbleBeard View Post
    I think a lot of people don't utilize Diurnal AST enough. I know it can be fun to run around as a nigh unkillable damage sponge, but you can pump out some good healing and really help with cross healing with the regens, and you can still escape some pretty silly situations if you can sprint + lightspeed heal yourself.
    I agree! I actually quite like Diurnal AB, which is a HOT plus an instant heal. The instant heal only has a 190 potency, but I've used that small buffer to save a few teammates who were nearly done in by DOTs. You could also spam Diurnal AB on a target repeatedly get the 190 heal each time--with the constant HOT it's maybe half the potency of Noct spam. (I know I'm going to regret writing that).

    I'm not saying you want to kite opponents around like you would with Noct, but it's an option if you're retreating and lightspeed is on CD.
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  10. #30
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiden_Volkov View Post
    I did double fell clave first 5k and inmediatly after 7.4k and Astro go down
    Yeah WAR atm is direct counter for all three healers due double FC burst, AST is still most annoying but WHM and SCH just melts in mere seconds. Get all buffs/debuffs up and do FC+brutal+FC and its GG.
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