What do you think of Ala Mhigo?

[Frederick22]

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Is not just about crystals, the most important thing is the person itself.
Maybe just maybe, the firsts warriors of light were the strongest ones, and on each WoL generation no one were as stronger as them, not until now.

[Kaiser-Ace]

You know what bugs me about the entire 'Chrystals of Light were much more powerful in the past'-thing? If that's true, and if we assume that the Warriors of Light appeared in each Umbral Era plus Hydaelyn getting weaker and weaker, then how does it fit that we are so overpowered in the eyes of the Ascians that we encroach upon the gods (possibly the first WoL after your theory)? Shouldn't they know even stronger ones than us from the past? Or are we outliers in that we are, for some strange reason, stronger than what we should be? It sounds like the last one in the MSQ, but why?

That in and of it's self is what makes me think it's true. We are THE FIRST warriors of light to have this much power since the very first ones. We're the first in a long time to be an actual risk and possible the 1st EVER to discover how to kill them. We are Encroaching on the power of the Gods where as The First Warriors of light in my scenario became the Twelve and were possibly the ones who sealed Zodiark to begin with, So if we too become gods in our own right as the twelve did, then that could almost guarantee Zodiark Never awakens again. Even more so if we kill the Ascians off once and for all.

The big "OMG We got to stop this man/woman" that Elidibus is having right now is because we've broken the mold and gotten more powerful than any of the ones to rise since Hydaelyn started weakening.

Tl:dr
We're so OP that we are the most powerful since my theoretical Twelve and thus we gotta Die before WE become Gods and make Zodiark impossible to wake.

[Rocl]

You know what bugs me about the entire 'Chrystals of Light were much more powerful in the past'-thing? If that's true, and if we assume that the Warriors of Light appeared in each Umbral Era plus Hydaelyn getting weaker and weaker, then how does it fit that we are so overpowered in the eyes of the Ascians that we encroach upon the gods (possibly the first WoL after your theory)? Shouldn't they know even stronger ones than us from the past? Or are we outliers in that we are, for some strange reason, stronger than what we should be? It sounds like the last one in the MSQ, but why?

That's... actually something that hadn't crossed my mind before.

Assuming the Ascians have been the players behind every Umbral Era (perhaps after the first ending the Age of Gods?), they should have theoretically dealt with Warriors of Light and stronger Crystals of Light. However, does a Crystal of Light indicate you are a recipient of the Blessing of Light? Unlikely, given Ysale possessing a Crystal and the Echo-- but Midgardsormr wasn't bothered by her when she visited the Keeper, meaning she probably lacked the Blessing. Minfilia and Krile are two other Echo-capable people who, as far as we know, do not possess a Crystal of Light. We should be the only person who possesses both (assuming they're still two distinct things, which is muddled at best); the best evidence of this would be Midgardsormr's shock/indignation that Hydaelyn bequeathed us both Gifts. Midgardsormr, at the very least, should be a credible source given his lifespan and connection to Hydaelyn. After he sealed our Blessing, our Echo persisted. We understood Nabriales when Moenbryda did not. Not a single beastmen needed translation-- our babel fish remained intact. (Though how our Blessing of Light shielded the Rising Stones from Nabriales I've yet to even have the faintest of guesses.)

So now we have the idea that our character is unique among the Echo users with our ability to materialize multiple Crystals of Light (a whole set!)-- there isn't much else we can say holds us apart from them aside from martial prowess. It's possible the other Warriors of Light in ages past hadn't been quite the "perfect storm" we have been. It's also possible that Hydaelyn has weakened herself repeatedly through the ages and instead of trying to stall and preserve the Light, she aims to destroy the Dark. Putting all her eggs in one basket (us) for once instead of sitting around and hoping the Ascians will stop meddling with Her children. Perhaps Hydaelyn has more in common with Nidhogg than we previously believed and sought to draw out the conflict and punish the Dark-- though this is a very unlikely possibility imo.

Though, listening to Answers with a warlike Hydaelyn in mind doesn't seem totally impossible...just improbable.

An easier solution is that, like Kaiser-Ace said, we're simply the first Warriors to figure out how to kill them thanks to our Sharlayan allies endlessly studying the esoterics of aetherphysics and history. The Ascians' newfound mortality probably was something of a shock to them.

Another important point is who doles out the title "Warrior of Light"? We first receive it from the leaders of the Eorzean Alliance don't we? An honorary title of sorts that we are friend to them now as those who fought at Carteneau (even if some of are the exact same person). In the beginning, Hydaelyn calls us 'crystal bearer,' 'bringer of light,' and such in the beginning. It's possible Hydaelyn's chosen aren't "warriors of light" until they succeed in combating Darkness. So the relative power of the Warrior isn't as important as the power of the adversary they bested, I feel.

[myahele]

I'm surprise this hasn't crossed my mind yet. But "bringer of light" can be associated with Lucifer. I wonder what Hydaelyn will do once learn the truth and/or defy her?

[Cilia]

I'm surprise this hasn't crossed my mind yet. But "bringer of light" can be associated with Lucifer. I wonder what Hydaelyn will do once learn the truth and/or defy her?

While that is a rough translation of Lucifer (literally means "light bringer")... I don't think we're in that dark of a fantasy story. Not yet, anyway.

[IrisBlanchimont]

I'm surprise this hasn't crossed my mind yet. But "bringer of light" can be associated with Lucifer. I wonder what Hydaelyn will do once learn the truth and/or defy her?

I think that one is reaching a bit too far through Earth-lore. Though I don't think she's purely good, I also don't think the WoL are the bad guys.

Though, listening to Answers with a warlike Hydaelyn in mind doesn't seem totally impossible...just improbable.

Holy hell, Rocl! Listening to it with that mindset is actually really powerful. I totally can see Hydaelyn throwing it all on the table and saying "This is war now, Zodiark."

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

I hope there are lots of Miqo'te there and definitely any new area is always welcomed by me for the pure sake of seeing more gorgeous content in this game. It also has rich history and story line potential I would gobble up like a fiend of course.


I really want to do to Doma btw! /poke SE pls kthnx

[Pentacus]

It's not really Ul'dah's responsibility to look out for the displaced Ala Mhigans. Some of them have made a living for themselves but many seem to believe that the world owes them quite a bit. I've never had much sympathy for economic migrants though. You'd think that a nation that values strength and brute force would more easily accept defeat and control at the hands of a more powerful nation. After all, they sought to control Eorzea.

actually, that's a good point, for a country that was trying to take over the world, you'd think they would be THRILLED to now be part of an empire that is actually doing a pretty good job at taking over the world.

[Dualblade]

While that is a rough translation of Lucifer (literally means "light bringer")... I don't think we're in that dark of a fantasy story. Not yet, anyway.

Unless they bring in Taro Yoko...Yoshida is designing some of the NieR Automata characters after all >> << >>

[Xiomara]

actually, that's a good point, for a country that was trying to take over the world, you'd think they would be THRILLED to now be part of an empire that is actually doing a pretty good job at taking over the world.

It'd be pretty interesting if we are assisting the resistance, but then it turns out a good chunk of Ala Mhigans now like Imperial rule and are opposing the resistance, and so there's now that conflict to deal with, which will be cool to explore what it's like under Imperial rule.

I'd prefer it if the story was that liberating Ala Migo was simply a byproduct of our fight with the Empire, rather than any specific desire to liberate their country. Then once that's all done, we can move somewhere really interesting in 5.0, like the Imperial continent, or Thavnaria.