Tank Balance - Thordan EX 7-WAR 1-WHM Clear (Really SE?)

[Syzygian]

Long before 7 war-anything was a thing, people were doing 7-sch 1-tank in scob. Lets nerf sch!!!

[Reynhart]

Nothing to do with gear, everything to do with practice. A first clear goes nothing like one two weeks later when you know exactly how the fight goes. A whole minute absolutely is a big difference, especially when a lot of the earlier parts of the fight are waiting for mechanics. You might not think 8m vs 9m is a big difference, but in actual time DPSing properly it's more like 5m vs 6m, meaning the 6m clear took 20% longer.

So, what about this one ?
26:00 -> 16:46 = 9m14s

Long before 7 war-anything was a thing, people were doing 7-sch 1-tank in scob. Lets nerf sch!!!

Example ?

[Launched]

So, what about this one ?
26:00 -> 16:46 = 9m14s

What about it? Same time as 7 practiced WARs, even though they had 5 people new (and 2 healers, not 1). I fail to see how this makes WAR OP.

[Brannigan]

Long before 7 war-anything was a thing, people were doing 7-sch 1-tank in scob. Lets nerf sch!!!

Well, really, they should have nerfed Scholar in 2.x. That class was capable doing of ridiculous stuff.

[Syzygian]

So, what about this one ?
26:00 -> 16:46 = 9m14s

Example ?

Im on my phone but you can search 7-sch 1-war t9 on youtube and see for yourself.

Edit: off phone now, here ya go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlW1kZ-Nwdg

[Reynhart]

What about it? Same time as 7 practiced WARs, even though they had 5 people new (and 2 healers, not 1). I fail to see how this makes WAR OP.

Another one, no new player, 9m3s clear.

[Launched]

Another one, no new player, 9m3s clear.

Clearly messing up DPS uptime after the LB considering they were 4% of the WARs when Thordan disappears. Nothing to do with the job, everything to do with knowing the fight and player skill. You can keep doing this all day, but unless you get a video of the exact same 8 people with the exact same RNG stuff in the fight as a proper party composition, there'll be plenty of explanations that aren't "WAR is so OP".

[Giantbane]

If WAR needs anything dialed back a bit its not their DPS, its their infinite TP and Equilibrium's ridiculous (even by Xeno's admission) 60s cooldown. Those are things even a lot of WAR mains can agree on, but being able to DPS down arguably midcore/casual content? Stuff like this just makes non-WAR mains look petty. Stahp.

WAR is the standard DRK & PLD should live up to. All of its abilities feel very good and work very well together.

[Reynhart]

Clearly messing up DPS uptime after the LB considering they were 4% of the WARs when Thordan disappears. Nothing to do with the job, everything to do with knowing the fight and player skill. You can keep doing this all day, but unless you get a video of the exact same 8 people with the exact same RNG stuff in the fight as a proper party composition, there'll be plenty of explanations that aren't "WAR is so OP".

Yes, and the first explanation is...denial.
Despite all evidence, on top of the clear fact that everybody only wants WAR, you're still convinced that your class is just "ok".
It's also not surprising that everyone who dismiss this kind of evidence is lvl60 WAR.

[Reynhart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlW1kZ-Nwdg

Kill time : 11m23s
Kill time : 10m40s
It's 40 seconds more, not 10.
Oh, and by the way, yes, SCH's DPS is absurdly high for a healer.