To all the flames on primal datacenter...

[Februs]

You speak like as if I'm a dirty badders, and that's wrong.

Ah, my mistake. Your wording made it sound like you were on the Adders side, and usually when I hear people bi...complaining about Flames tunnel vision it's usually an Adder who is butt sore from getting a spanking, and then trying to use the "Flames only ever attack us" garbage as an excuse (which is kind of how this whole thread got started).

It's usually them getting the win in the end because adders keep wanting to fight - or people in our GC wanted to farm for heads

I sympathize with this. Like I said, there is no trust between Adders and Flames. When Flames and Mael fight, the fight ends when there's no reason to fight anymore. We will let each other go. When Flames and Adders fight, we seem to get locked into it for the entire match. If we try to leave, they chase. If they try to leave, we chase. It's gotten to the point where most of us will keep fighting just because we don't trust them to not shove a sword up our butts the moment we look away from them. It's not horrible, but it gets awfully stale only fighting the same team over and over and over....

[saintmanji]

... Like I said, there is no trust between Adders and Flames. When Flames and Mael fight, the fight ends when there's no reason to fight anymore. We will let each other go. When Flames and Adders fight, we seem to get locked into it for the entire match. If we try to leave, they chase. If they try to leave, we chase.

Meh, I kind of like it better this way. If it was just a robotic "go to tomeliths, get nodes, etc, etc" it'd be a bit uneventful. At least, uneventful in the sense of the lack of emotional content. When Adders try to push, my brain immediately goes "these faggots think they got chutzpah???". And vice versa. Especially considering that in 72 man seige, it's more mob tactics than skill and it adds a bit of flavor to that fake hatred.
Does that kind of game play lead to embarrassing losses? Unquestionably.
But it's fun and on the rounds where the eso grinders are in the majority, you have to find your smiles one way or another.

[TheWaywardWind]

Does that kind of game play lead to embarrassing losses? Unquestionably.
But it's fun and on the rounds where the eso grinders are in the majority, you have to find your smiles one way or another.

It's fine to feel this way, but keep in mind most people still want to win and complete objectives.

I no longer need wins in PvP to get anything special out of it (I already have my horse, ADS, title, field commander set, etc), but that still doesn't mean most games I want to throw a match just because the Adders are being stupid again and charging at us while Mael tap-dances away with three nodes. I enjoy crushing the Badders and the Failstromers, but not so much that I'd want to throw a match for it. They aren't worth it.

[Februs]

Meh, I kind of like it better this way... You have to find your smiles one way or another.

I agree with you, and, honestly, sometimes it's exhausting to try and steer the mindless masses away from their own stupidity, so I've forced myself to step back sometimes and just roll with it... but...

It's fine to feel this way, but keep in mind most people still want to win and complete objectives.

I completely understand this mentality as well. I like winning. I want to win. Also, I find that the most enjoyable matches I've ever had are ones in which there was a heated competition for first... That doesn't happen when two teams power focus one another and ignore GC 3, letting them do whatever they want. Further, some of the fights are less enjoyable because they inevitably turn into a 2v1 gang bang. I can't count how many times I've gotten into a fight with Mael, a good, honest, fight only to have the Adders sweep in the middle of it and just get in the way. It's like getting blue balled. The fight's not as satisfying because you never felt like you got to finish it....

I like it as a game mode, and 3 way fights make for a dynamic and interesting battle field, but I really wish we had a 2 way game mode option to work with, because there are days that I just want to get into a straight up brawl and not have to look over my shoulder for Adders/Mael coming to the rescue of whoever I'm trouncing.