Is this all you people care about?

[DiscordiaEris]

Theres more content that can be created than just raids.

Open World PVP (probably a terrible idea but fathomable)

Over world bosses, open world dungeons, a revision of Diadem, solo dungeons and boss content, a truly well-done revision of the materia system allowing meaningful and unique enhancements on equipment, adjustments to play style, implementation of a skill tree.

It feels like this game caters entirely to casuals. I mean like... Bejewelled, Flappy Bird kinda casuals. Not the "I have a job casual".

And you'll find thread after thread about all of those subjects. You also might want to cut back on using "casuals" as an epithet; it's insulting to players who don't raid 24/7. I'd be a lot more receptive to your arguments if I didn't feel you were blaming your woes on "casuals". If you have a legitimate beef with the direction of the game, detail it, make rational arguments, and above all don't rant. Ranting is the surest way of having your complaints ignored by the community.

[KeluBehemoth]

You also might want to cut back on using "casuals" as an epithet; it's insulting to players who don't raid 24/7. I'd be a lot more receptive to your arguments if I didn't feel you were blaming your woes on "casuals". If you have a legitimate beef with the direction of the game, detail it, make rational arguments, and above all don't rant. Ranting is the surest way of having your complaints ignored by the community.

I don't raid at all in HW. Aside from Primals EX. I cleared all of Coil pre echo and have no desire to do the exact same thing again.

When I say casuals. As I said, I mean the Bejewelled, Flappy Bird, Angry Birds, Minecraft crowd. Those casuals. The pay microtransactions for everything, to unlock some special little thing, instant gratification crowd. The ones who just want to log in and be like "Look at me I'm a shiny bad ass guy with a sword. I dont give a damn about Final Fantasy lore or lolelitesttooltips

[DiscordiaEris]

I don't raid at all in HW. Aside from Primals EX. I cleared all of Coil pre echo and have no desire to do the exact same thing again.

When I say casuals. As I said, I mean the Bejewelled, Flappy Bird, Angry Birds, Minecraft crowd. Those casuals. The pay microtransactions for everything, to unlock some special little thing, instant gratification crowd. The ones who just want to log in and be like "Look at me I'm a shiny bad ass guy with a sword. I dont give a damn about Final Fantasy lore or lolelitesttooltips

I don't care what you think you mean; you are clearly on the war path and blaming [bold]your[/bold] problems on other players. Not only is it unlikely that Angry Birds players are playing FFXIV, it's near inconceivable that they are the ones driving the direction of the game. FFXIV's devs are following the massively successful WoW model, and it seems to be working. If you have a problem with that, address it. Complaining that filthy casuals are ruining your game is the best way to end up on the ignore list.

Or, you know, you could cancel your subscription and go play something else where you won't be bothered by casuals.

[KeluBehemoth]

I don't care what you think you mean; you are clearly on the war path and blaming [bold]your[/bold] problems on other players. Not only is it unlikely that Angry Birds players are playing FFXIV, it's near inconceivable that they are the ones driving the direction of the game. FFXIV's devs are following the massively successful WoW model, and it seems to be working. If you have a problem with that, address it. Complaining that filthy casuals are ruining your game is the best way to end up on the ignore list.

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If anyone is being aggressive its you.


WoW has actually been failing so using it as the basis for a successful model is a mistake.

WoW has been consistently losing subs since WotLK. Since they scrapped skill trees, individuality, challenging content and basically anything that may be too complex for a 12 year old.

[DiscordiaEris]

If anyone is being aggressive its you.


WoW has actually been failing so using it as the basis for a successful model is a mistake.

WoW has been consistently losing subs since WotLK. Since they scrapped skill trees, individuality, challenging content and basically anything that may be too complex for a 12 year old.

Aaaand, PLONK!

[Silica-chan]

This game forces me to save the world or do other kill/save stuff all the time and I enjoy looking good while running through the world multiple times to do it

I'm not that dedicated to do the ultimate challenge contet I prefer crafting, gatering, trying to get rich(unsuccessfull here lol) getting mad over lalafel voices(no offense here) and glamour.
I'd try to finish Final Coil but it's pretty much dead therefore what other choices do I have?

[Avidria]

When I say casuals. As I said, I mean the Bejewelled, Flappy Bird, Angry Birds, Minecraft crowd. Those casuals. The pay microtransactions for everything, to unlock some special little thing, instant gratification crowd. The ones who just want to log in and be like "Look at me I'm a shiny bad ass guy with a sword. I dont give a damn about Final Fantasy lore or lolelitesttooltips

See, I really love Minecraft and I've been known to play Bejeweled on occasion, but I also enjoy this game's lore along with pvp and raiding. What's that make me?

Sweeping generalizations don't make for a very good argument.