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  1. #61
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    Hibiki Hisakawa
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    Their glamour options don't discriminate against you, Vivi and this is the place to talk about it. When people wanted equal rights for Eternal Bonding, they made themselves vocal on the forums to let people of any race/gender bond.
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  2. #62
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    Savvy Selbina
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    Bard Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    First off, its not blind discrimination. Because you want something I dont, that makes it discrimination? Cause by that logic I could argue your discriminating against people who dont want it. It goes both ways.
    No, sorry, it is discrimination. You think females should have it just because they are females and men shouldn't have it just because they are men. You think because a man is shaped differently he shouldn't be allowed to wear something that you can wear because you are shaped differently than he is. And that, my friend, is discrimination. You can have your opinion and nobody told you that you couldn't, but your opinion is a discriminatory one.
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  3. 11-22-2015 07:34 AM

  4. #63
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    Eien Lightspark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultima View Post
    I know it's been discussed to death on these forums, but I don't think it's right that SE is denying people their glamour, women can wear men's clothes and men can't wear women's clothes.

    I don't know why SE is against even adding bunny ears for men, Blade and Soul did it.


    Seriously, equality is totally good and i agree on that... but,
    having a good taste on what you choose to wear is a separate thing, that nurse outfit on that body is totally horrible, that isnt even designed for a male body like that.
    Its hilarious.
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    Last edited by meldon90; 11-22-2015 at 07:41 AM.

  5. #64
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    Savvy Selbina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    I never said it discriminates against me. I just don't like hearing that just because someone disagrees, it's automatically discrimination. My reasons for supporting something really isn't anyone's business. I expressed that I don't support it and that's all I should have to say. Giving details about my decision is when you risk discriminating.
    If you are disagreeing with equal treatment for both genders, you are gender discriminating. You don't seem to get it. If I say you can't have something just because you're female, I am discriminating based on your gender and that is WRONG. You should be allowed to have everything men can have because the only difference between us is our gender, and it goes both ways.

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    Last edited by Savvy; 11-22-2015 at 07:49 AM.

  6. 11-22-2015 07:55 AM

  7. #65
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravely_Default View Post
    If you think that many people support it, why don't you start an actual thread about gender discrimination on equipment instead of turning what was a conversation about a simple head accessory into a flame war.
    We did. Go check it out: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...department-yay

    There's also some more background here if you don't want to root around looking for everything in different threads.

    I'm actually confused about why you think that the people supporting male bunny ears are the one turning this thread into a flame war, when the point of this thread is explained right there in the first post

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    Is it really? Please qoute me then cause it sounds like your putting words in my mouth since I never gave any reasons to why I don't suppor. I simply said that I don't; and now that there's a difference in opinions, I'm being attack for things I never even said to begin with. It's like I'm being forced to agree with you otherwise I am automatically a horrible person.
    With all due respect, I think there's another angle to this. If the topic was "Can we all have dyeable succubus horns?" or "Can female characters have bear ears?" then saying you don't agree is simply giving your opinion; the reasons for it don't matter. I respect that, maybe you really hate bear ears or something.

    But if the topic is "Can people who aren't you have the same things you already have?" and you come in to say you disagree, then say you can't give the reason because that would reveal discriminatory intentions, it sounds an awful lot as though you're discriminating. It literally doesn't affect your character in any way; so long as you stay female you never have to risk logging on to the game drunk one day and accidentally equipping some bunny ears. So why do you get to tell people with male characters that they shouldn't have that option at all?
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    Last edited by Serilda; 11-22-2015 at 07:59 AM.

  8. 11-22-2015 07:58 AM

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    Charlotte Elise
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    The weirdest part is that female PCs can wear the false mustache, and soon the beard from the upcoming Christmas event but males can't wear bunny ears. Beards are fine on female characters, but bunny ears on males is crossing the line?
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  10. #67
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    Yorin Liefhart
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    I just don't understand what there could possibly be that you wouldn't want to support.

    Male rabbits have ears. It's simply stupid to not allow a headpiece with rabbit ears not to be used by male characters. It's literally a case of "No you don't get this just because."
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  11. #68
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    Savvy Selbina
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  12. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savvy View Post
    Why is this not real?! ;_;
    I want bunny ears on my male lalafell main!!
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  13. #70
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    Fairy-queen Titania
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Even looking at the opening post, all I am seeing is a want for bunny ears. In the end what SE decides to do does not bother me as long as it does not interfere with production of content that myself and many others want. if I am in an instance with a guy in a tutu as long as they can do their job, and it is a new instance, I don't care.

    EDIT: I really think that simple accessories should be changed (spring hat, bunny ears, etc). Would be a simple matter of removing the gender lock.
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