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    Rjain's Avatar
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    Rjain Midnight
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
    Was this a number really in need of getting nerfed? Who is the design genius who said, "but wait, we need to nerf these numbers, the reward for content is too high". Is he the same guy that is saying "we really wish this content would be more popular"?
    Two things.

    A) The nerf you are complaining about is a buff, considering it used to cost 100 MGP to enter and you were rewarded 100 MGP for winning. That means you either kept your MGP or lost 100 MGP by participating. Now it costs 0 to enter, and you receive 50 for winning.

    B) People play this content to have fun and as something different to do. There are many other, much faster ways of earning MGP than this sort of content. If you are averse to having fun and just want to grind your life away to earn an item no one cares about you obtaining, you are capable of doing so through other means.
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    Gunspec Daggerforge
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rjain View Post
    B) People play this content to have fun and as something different to do. There are many other, much faster ways of earning MGP than this sort of content.
    The problem is that they are spending an enormous amount of time designing content for the gold saucer that doesn't provide rewards for the gold saucer. If you want to spend time developing content, and you want people to spend time playing that content, the rewards should be relative to the time invested.

    2 months from now, I want you to check out the Verminion area and notice that there is no one there playing this extravagant mini-game. Then I want you to check out the mini-cactpot counter, which always has a half dozen people crowded around it. This is a design flaw.

    Imagine if the entire game was designed around this concept. Once a day, you have an extremely simple mini-game with a decent chance of scoring an amount of XP, Law, and Esoterics equal to 10 hours of dungeons, raids, and fates. No one would be running the content added to the game, because a majority of the rewards are coming from a single daily lottery.
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    Momoko Tomoko
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunspec View Post
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    I completely agree, this is one of the bigger issues. It takes like a minute to do a mini cactpot, and the expected value is 1485 MGP if you do perfect play. So if you spend 600 MGP on 3 cards, it takes less than 3 minutes and your expected return is 4455 MGP for almost 0 effort.

    This is compared to LoV, where matches ranges from 5-10m, require a lot of effort, and you win like what, 500MGP?
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    Last edited by PotatoTree; 11-21-2015 at 07:35 PM.
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    Hikai Tadacho
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    I completely agree, this is one of the bigger issues. It takes like a minute to do a mini cactpot, and the expected value is 1485 MGP if you do perfect play. So if you spend 600 MGP on 3 cards, it takes less than 3 minutes and your expected return is 4455 MGP for almost 0 effort.

    This is compared to LoV, where matches ranges from 5-10m, require a lot of effort, and you win like what, 500MGP?
    I got like 30k MGP from coming 27th in the last tournament and I only did 15 matches

    That was a pretty big return for minimum effort on my part.

    I think getting even closer to 1st place was yielding people up to 80,000 - 100,000 MGP.
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    Last edited by Tadacho; 11-21-2015 at 08:03 PM.