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  1. #81
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    Konachibi's Avatar
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    Kona Chibi
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    this makes no sense, console games have some of the most button presses per minute as anyone games out there, and most of the people i know who complained about AA were talking about having to press 11111 or the kb buttons repeatedly. I dont think you can blame consoles for this, i think it rests firmly on pc players who are used to being able to eat a sandwich or type out their college thesis while in combat.
    I like to smoke cigarettes whilst fighting, so yes I prefer auto-attack :3

  2. #82
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    Blade n Soul is tab-targetting and doesn't have autoattack. It can get boring if you're just grinding on a mob, but even that's so much more entertaining than FFXIV's combat ever was. It's proof that active-based combat (with an emphasis on choice and positioning) can be achieved.

    I never heard anyone say Blade n Soul needs autoattack, lol.

    I guess the point is: combat is still boring.

    Improving enmity conditions helped, but be honest, autoattack didn't do anything.
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  3. #83
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    AsterBarnivere's Avatar
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    Aster Seule
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    Mateus
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by User201109011315 View Post
    Blade n Soul is tab-targetting and doesn't have autoattack. It can get boring if you're just grinding on a mob, but even that's so much more entertaining than FFXIV's combat ever was. It's proof that active-based combat (with an emphasis on choice and positioning) can be achieved.

    I never heard anyone say Blade n Soul needs autoattack, lol.

    I guess the point is: combat is still boring.

    Improving enmity conditions helped, but be honest, autoattack didn't do anything.
    As a cbt and cbt2 tester for B&S, you can tab target, or allow auto target to do the targeting for you.
    (The game solely relies on the keyboard and has a very deep combo system)

    You cannot click the abilities with your mouse. (The game relies solely on the keyboard... it IS a fighting mmo after all)
    You cannot use your mouse to select targets, you select targets by facing them.
    Skills are on the following keys(depending on class level/etc): TAB, 1, 2, 3, 4, R, F, Z, X, X, C, V, Left Mouse Button
    (they are rebind-able)
    The mouse primarily by default controls the camera and your character or just the camera.
    Your Primary attack is on both the R key and the Left Mouse Button.
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  4. #84
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    Neptune's Avatar
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    Neptune Deepsea
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I play a caster but I have heard a lot about dissatisfaction with auto attack. I remember the dev team saying you wouldn't be able to win a battle with just auto attack, and maybe that's because they made it so slow? Originally you could just 1 spam your way through just about anything.. but I didn't particularly have a problem with that. On guildleves at least. I think they should bring back the feel of your character always doing something.. the 10 second delay on your attack needs to disappear.
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  5. #85
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    Griss Stilgar
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    Sargatanas
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    Machinist Lv 100
    while the rate of the base attacks and the cool down on secondary basic attacks will always be a hot topic for discussion. There is one thing that i really really dig about auto attack. It will not expend single attack buffs like hawk eye or raging strike when it procs.
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  6. #86
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    Mikita Nightsong
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    Anima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    I never run out of actions to do on my 50 lancer and 35 glad so far O_o it probably is kind of slow at low ranks but you get more abilities to kill time later on...
    At higher ranks it's fine. When playing Conjurer (R50) or Thaumaturge (R43) there's always something for me to do.

    But I've been trying to rank up Gladiator (currently R28) and it's pretty boring.
    I'm probably "playing wrong" and would definitely appreciate advice from better players.

    But most of the time I'm waiting for Auto Attack to kick in while watching the cooldown timer on Light Stab to reset. Even using Outmaneuver and Invigorate, it still takes quite a while for me to build up enough TP to have anything else to do other than Light Stab... and often by that time the monster is dispatched by someone else.

    One up side is that I have time to play with the camera angle and take screenshots during battle. ^^;
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  7. #87
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    Emerald Hill
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    this makes no sense, console games have some of the most button presses per minute as anyone games out there, and most of the people i know who complained about AA were talking about having to press 11111 or the kb buttons repeatedly. I dont think you can blame consoles for this, i think it rests firmly on pc players who are used to being able to eat a sandwich or type out their college thesis while in combat.
    Have you even tried playing this game with a controller? Try going from 1 to 9 on the controller and tell me who could press those buttons faster.
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  8. #88
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    Darkstar Poet
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldHill View Post
    Have you even tried playing this game with a controller? Try going from 1 to 9 on the controller and tell me who could press those buttons faster.
    sure it's easier to hit left left on your controller to get there.

    edit: i started with the mouse and keyboard for the first 4 months before i started using my controller. after using it a short while there was no way i would ever consider going back to my mouse/kb.
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  9. #89
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    Patricia Lanvaldear
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    sure it's easier to hit left left on your controller to get there.
    what? you can't be serious.

    In what world is hitting left then X or whatever faster than hitting 2
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  10. #90
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    Darkstar Poet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic View Post
    what? you can't be serious.

    In what world is hitting left then X or whatever faster than hitting 2
    yes, i am quite serious. with the controller my buttons are already at my fingers. using the keyboard there is no telling where your hand may be at any point in time. that is going to relate to it being alot faster to make the moves because your hand is always there.
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