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  1. #31
    Player
    ExKage's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Heixin Xiaoshuita
    World
    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    If I were to experience this myself, did not give in to the petty demands of an immature player keeping me in an FC I do not want to be in anymore, I would very highly consider not playing the game anymore. At the point I am at (multiple 60s, lots of the gear I want etc) I would not enjoy making a new character just to get away.

    I've tried to point these issues/threads to certain peoples' in Square Enix's community team on social media to no response whatsoever.
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  2. #32
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    Raiya's Avatar
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    Raiya Li
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 100
    This flaw is ridiculosly easy to fix: If someone has a room in a FC house they CANNOT be locked out of said house regardless of what setting the FC leader has set. Thats all it takes.
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  3. #33
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    dank1's Avatar
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    Dank Evol
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Hahah this is awesome
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    Life's a tease.

  4. #34
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    Y'kayah Tia
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiya View Post
    This flaw is ridiculosly easy to fix: If someone has a room in a FC house they CANNOT be locked out of said house regardless of what setting the FC leader has set. Thats all it takes.
    An even easier rule: If someone is a member of an FC, then they cannot be locked out of the FC's house under any circumstances. Since that would automatically include everyone who has a personal room, it would prevent any issues like the current problem. And in the meantime, it provides a bit more fairness to everyone else. There's no legitimate reason for locking FC members out of the FC's house.
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  5. #35
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lurial View Post
    Everyone involved called GMs and were unable to be helped. I don't know the language used to speak with them, but there was also a previous situation a year ago where something similar happened and even then - the GMs were unable to help. My only guess is that the GMs themselves are limited in how they can handle that kind of situation. Outside of SE giving them more power - the only solution available is for the devs to fix this glaring flaw and make sure it never happens again.
    I understand and I'm not really sure how the GMs could justify not taking some form of action. If a player who owns a personal chamber is being prevented from accessing the FC house by the FC master, and thus cannot leave the FC or even transfer their character to a new world, I can't see how anyone can argue that this is not an abuse of power and therefore clearly a griefing tactic. I mean seriously, any FC leader petty enough to do this deserves a lengthy temp ban, among other things.

    That said, the easiest way to take care of this is to make it so that any FC member can access the FC house regardless of the privacy options set on the estate.

    Still I would like to see the community managers declare this type of abuse by FC leadership is a griefing tactic and will incur disciplinary action.
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  6. #36
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    KingOfAbyss's Avatar
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    Abyss King
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 60
    And the worst part of it: you cannot shame him/her on shouts, else they'll report you.. Sometimes I wonder if SE is sleeping or don't want to see it's errors..

    as other suggested, if could be a simple fix.

    not giving too much power over a person; they aren't god, only fc leaders..

    I've got the chills thinking of my last FC leader; this could have been is scheming way of refraining people from quitting it's FC, then ask for a ransom to get our stuff back.. *goosebumps*
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  7. #37
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    Arrelaine's Avatar
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    Character
    Arrelaine Fashonti
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 65
    This needs to be bumped to the front page. Something needs to be done about this, especially when GMs refused to help and didn't (apparently) realize that they couldn't just leave the FC, as a GM advised them to do.
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  8. #38
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    Nicobo's Avatar
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 70
    Simply, just let players select enter their rooms directly when clicking the house's main door from the garden.

    But YoshiP had mentioned that DEV wanted fc members passthru the living room. ^^;
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  9. #39
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Finland
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    A player can be kicked from the fc even if they have a personal room, right? Then why can't they leave on their own... So stupid. Any housing options wouldn't even need to be changed. Just let people leave the fc and collect their stuff from the npc. SE really has no excuse to not have fixed this yesterday.
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  10. #40
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    Solarra's Avatar
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Niwashi View Post
    An even easier rule: If someone is a member of an FC, then they cannot be locked out of the FC's house... There's no legitimate reason for locking FC members out of the FC's house.
    Couldn't agree with you more. I can see no reason why the FC master should have that much power over Company members.
    It's disturbing this doesn't seem to be covered under the rules against harassment and griefing.
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