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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 60

    I love the new primal. Please give us more content like this.

    I cleared this fight a few days ago and I found it one of the most challenging and rewarding raids in the game. Mechanically the fight is interesting and difficult but recoverable even with multiple deaths at any phase of the fight making it so much less tedious than savage. Completing Thordan was exciting while each floor of savage is just a relief to have it over with. None of my dps complained about it just being a training dummy with ridiculous, yet uninspired, mechanics check for healers and tanks. (Looking at you, Manipulator.)

    I hope we see more fights like this in the future. Every moment of learning this fight was fun while still maintaining a real sense of challenge.
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    Last edited by PetiteMalFleur; 11-16-2015 at 05:55 AM.

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    Alex Lenderson
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 62
    Glad SE hit the mark on this fight. Hopefully they won't cave in to the people crying nerf.
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    Ralvenom Mahlfusant
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex_Lenderson View Post
    Glad SE hit the mark on this fight. Hopefully they won't cave in to the people crying nerf.
    They don't have to; there's probably going to be a (planned) Echo Buff for this in 3.2 anyway.
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    "I've been playing MMO's a long time and if there's one thing I've learned, it's that lions do not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. Just take that little voice in your head that tells you to be tactful and understanding and shoot it...shoot it in the goddamn face." - SAO Abridged (Ep.2 | 8:35)

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    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Agreed this is definitely a step back into how coil was.A great balance of mechanics and dps checks instead of throwing away interesting mechanics with very tight dps checks.


    I hope they learn that most ppl dislike how alex was created and take it back to how it was.
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    Alex Lenderson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralvenom View Post
    They don't have to; there's probably going to be a (planned) Echo Buff for this in 3.2 anyway.
    Well that is how things tend to go I was referring to possibly nerfing the fight before the next progression patch.
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    As a 'filthy casual' (;P) who doesn't do top tier stuff like ThordanEX I want to agree that I hope they don't nerf it. It's entire existence is to be difficult, challenging & downright exciting for those who can. Those, like me, who maybe can't or don't want to do it straight away can wait for Echo.

    Nerfs should *only* be used where content is so tightly tuned that even the best of the best can't ever hope to beat it. Obviously if it's a story mode encounter then the bar is lower but ThordanEX certainly isn't story!
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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Kai Magnus
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    As a Mid Core Casual who despises everything Savage Mode, I actually like the Ballence of difficulty and flexibility.

    The Mechanics are hard hitting but not outright damning if they are botched.

    The battles that are "deal X dammage before Y happens or death" is boring and lack luster while at the same time BS mechanics like "Pray to RNGesus this pattern doesn't happen" are just insulting. (Looking at you T8 and Ultima EX).

    This is hard enough to be challenginfwith out being a tot BS mechanic train/Dps race.
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    I just beat the fight last night and wanted to come post here that I really loved the fight! Cool boss and adds, a lot of combined mechanics, great music and atmosphere. This is exactly what Final Fantasy MMO bosses should be like, in my opinion! The difficulty level was exactly right, this is the much needed medium difficulty content. Keep this kind of stuff coming!
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    We should all have a sign that says "Say No To Nerf", lol
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    Dark Brilliance
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Yoshi already stated that this is intended to be slightly harder than normal primals, and was intended to be an in-between alex normal and savage. And he said that they going to tune down the difficulty on next primals fights, sadly.
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