Diadem Gear > (Alex Norm / Savage, Crafting, PVP, VA, Extreme primals, tome) gear?

[Whiteroom]

Well, the gear sure did limit that hunt Zerg everyone was raging about for a week or so!

[FeliAiko]

I'm all for taking out Savage, if that's what you mean.

But on a serious note, for the first time this games looks like what a FF is about and people are complaining. If it's easier to get equips trough Diadem, go get'em.

By Savage I meant removing the restrictions that's currently on it. Savage can't really be sold as providing the best gear anymore, when Diadem exists, so no point in keeping the restrictions IMO. If Gordian weapon was i215 then that would provide some incentive to maintain it, but it's the same as Eso. On top of that, for some classes the Thordan has better secondary stats despite the ilvl difference, so it'd be better to just run that and replace it with the new Relic.

I can't see what Diadem provides that makes it look like 'what a FF is about'. What you do in Diadem you can do with FATEs and Hunts, since that is essentially what it is, with gathering nodes tacked on in an attempt to make gathering feel important (yet is viewed as a nuisance by the community at present). Exploration? What, you mean it wasn't possible to explore the different maps/zones already present in the game? I'm not seeing what is unique about this that isn't already provided elsewhere in some form, much less a reflection of what FF is about.

LoV, Triple Triad (albeit taken from VIII), those are unique additions to XIV that doesn't diminish existing content. Diadem makes doing dungeons pointless (since you can get Eso in far less time with less effort), Void Ark pointless (why go for i200 gear when i210 is available without restriction?), and Alex NM pointless despite removal of loot lockout (see Void Ark).

[SchalaZeal]

Diadem makes doing dungeons pointless (since you can get Eso in far less time with less effort)

Doing 1 expert a day is still faster than doing 2 Diadem a day. The difference is you can do 12 Diadems in a day (supposing you don't sleep or ever stop) and cap in a day.

Void Ark pointless (why go for i200 gear when i210 is available without restriction?)

To gear a 2nd job, because you probably didn't have enough eso to get i210 on 2 jobs from just 3.0, without doing Savage.

and Alex NM pointless despite removal of loot lockout (see Void Ark).

For story for those who haven't seen it yet. As well as getting up to i175 or i179 to do VA and Diadem. Also to get i190 for Thordan.

[FeliAiko]

Doing 1 expert a day is still faster than doing 2 Diadem a day. The difference is you can do 12 Diadems in a day (supposing you don't sleep or ever stop) and cap in a day.

Diadem gives you Eso and a chance at i210 better than what said Eso would buy you. Roulette just gives you Eso. Diadem is still the better option.

To gear a 2nd job, because you probably didn't have enough eso to get i210 on 2 jobs from just 3.0, without doing Savage.

With the majority of players flocking to Diadem, there's less people to do VA, leading to far longer queues than usual. So then such people hardly get to do VA, if at all. Let alone enough times to see the drop they want. This is exactly what FATEs in 2.0 did to dungeons until SE had to boost the exp gains in 2.1 to entice people to go back.

For story for those who haven't seen it yet.

Which has nothing to do with why they removed the loot lockout.

As well as getting up to i175 or i179 to do VA and Diadem. Also to get i190 for Thordan.

Good luck to those trying to do Alex, because I imagine none of the good players are farming it anymore. Hence same scenario I outlined with VA currently also happening. Also I read that if you join as a FC premade in the Workshop you can bypass the ilvl entry for Diadem. If that's the case then it's Fresh 60 > Diadem for i180/i210 pieces, while gaining Eso along the way.

[SchalaZeal]

I went Void Ark, twice. Tuesday, Wednesday. Bet most people also did. I got my drop on the 2nd run, other healer got theirs on the 1st.

Hence long queue times now. But not on Tuesday.

[FeliAiko]

I went Void Ark, twice. Tuesday, Wednesday. Bet most people also did. I got my drop on the 2nd run, other healer got theirs on the 1st.

So the day 3.1 dropped, and the day after. Yeah, of course you're going to get people doing new content on the first 1-2 days it's released, when it's been 5 months since anything new has arrived. Not exactly a surprise there.

Also don't get what point you're trying to make here about when you got your drops. Do you think everyone running VA that's after a specific drop will always get what they want in 2 runs or less?

Hence long queue times now. But not on Tuesday.

Long queue times now because people discovered how Diadem works not long after and hopped onto that. I'm sure VA will get short queue times next Tuesday though. Can't lose out on the twines after all.

[SchalaZeal]

Long queue times now because people discovered how Diadem works not long after and hopped onto that. I'm sure VA will get short queue times next Tuesday though. Can't lose out on the twines after all.

Exactly, so nothing to complain about. Do it early in the week, get your drop while you can. It's not a significant source of eso for the time it takes.

[FeliAiko]

Exactly, so nothing to complain about. Do it early in the week, get your drop while you can. It's not a significant source of eso for the time it takes.

No complaining here.

So basically, VA is only worth running for the twine on reset then left alone until next reset? Yeah thanks for proving my original point, that there's no point running it for the gear thanks to Diadem.

[Deezee]

If people haven't already, they will soon realize there isn't any point running anything except Diadem, especially once we get to the situation where the freshness of new content wears off and everything becomes a dull grind.

Why dull grind the expert roulette for 185 greens and a capped tomestone you can afford to trade in for at best one upgrade a week when you could just infini-farm a dull mob zerg grind for unlimited access to BiS 210s?

[SchalaZeal]

So basically, VA is only worth running for the twine on reset then left alone until next reset?

Got my very fashionable VA healer hat thank you. But once I got that drop, no need to run more.