Diadem Gear > (Alex Norm / Savage, Crafting, PVP, VA, Extreme primals, tome) gear?

[ValkyrieL]

Raider dragoon could have gotten either eso upgrade item, or gordian body, or both, in one try, if RNG bless him.
A diadem dragoon can spend months and never see a suitable piece.

A raider dragoon only has ONE chance in 7 days for RNG blessing/Tome lock out.
A diadem dragoon can "Spam" Diadem all day 7 days a week

[Brannigan]

Raider also has to actually learn fights and perform tee hee hee.

They probably should fix this by actually buffing raid gear with set bonuses and stuff.

[iambanana]

Im sorry to OP, i just got i210 caster with total 216 secondary stats (57 acc, 86 crit rate, 41 det, 32 spell speed), yeah its pretty OP.

but its my 1st i210 after 12 run, i even got my pegasus before i got any i210, thanks to RNGesus.

[RadiantRay]

Day 1 in Diadem
~2 runs
~replaced my esoteric necklace
~replaced my savage bracelets

I'm liking this especially since I potentially get better gear. Also the drop rate is really good, it's very easy to farm, and the rng isn't that bad haha

[Remus]

If I have to be honest i think diadem needs to be scaled back a bit because it was kinda sad that the first day I went into diadem i replaced my upgraded eso ring in just a few minutes. Raid gear should always be at the top of all gear in the game simple as and anyone defending diadem are just foolish and don't want to work to get good gear and SE is just supporting that and I wonder why so many people are so bad at the game and doing this just encourages it. In order for me to get an upgraded eso ring I needed to beat AS2 for the upgrade item but now i can just fly around hit a star mob/V then get a 210 with no effort put in. People can give the argument that the stats won't always be good but from looking at how things are right now i see quite a few people with the best stats you can get.

People are rolling in gear better than raid gear from just hitting a mob and this annoys me a little bit. The concept of diadem is good but they need to scale back 210 a bit or buff raid gear. So far SE hasn't given any reason to do raiding because they throw 210 at you anyway.

[FeliAiko]

The ones saying the loot doesn't matter are deceiving themselves here. Despite the RNG, the mere possibility of getting superior gear (through minimal effort at that) is why people are doing Diadem (it offers little else of worth really). If you don't care about the gear, then why are you bothered that people want to see it changed so its more balanced?

[Noxifer]

If I have to be honest i think diadem needs to be scaled back a bit because it was kinda sad that the first day I went into diadem i replaced my upgraded eso ring in just a few minutes.

Omg, they should totally have made Atmas drop more rarely, because there was some dude who got all twelve atmas in one day! D:

*cough* Just because a few people (statistically) can upgrade some of their i210 items after just a few runs, it doesn't mean everyone can. Some people can (in theory) farm the Diadem for the entire patch cycle without getting a single piece that's on par or better than Eso/AS gear (and if they do, you can bet it's for a job they don't even have at 60 yet).

[MeridaQ]

@Remus and Feliaiko, yes stats matter and yes it is easier to get better than savage gear in diadem for less effort. I understand how you feel just changed out my gordian belt for some pink gear, and I would have had issue if diadem dropped at the same time as Alex savage. It did not and we are no longer in Alex savage patch we are in the catch up patch, the new gear is for people who don't raid and for people who do raid who want that extra edge to clear the rest of Alex. That is why they give out twine and coats, We have to let it go as raiders, we have had better gear for 5 months, now everyone can have better gear. Mmos are not static they grow and progress more levels better gear, it's the natural cycle.

[FeliAiko]

Don't see why people are looking at Diadem as 'catch up content'. Catch up content is when loot lockouts are removed (Alex), new ways to get gear are provided (VA), raid-exclusive items become available outside of raid (Hunts, VA). Diadem is a different matter, and so shouldnt be lumped as catch up content because of the patch it made its debut in.

As for it being there to give people 210 without raiding, that's what the upgrade items are for. As was the case in every previous instance. I have no issue with twine/coats being available outside of raiding, because you can still make a distinction between non-raiders' and raiders (as the former will be Eso 210, but the optimal build will come from mixing Eso and Gordian gear). Diadem though disrupts this whole balance. The best gear possible now can be achieved with less effort and with no lockout. Why even keep Savage on a lockout at this point then? Might as well remove that too.

[Fevelle]

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I'm all for taking out Savage, if that's what you mean.

But on a serious note, for the first time this games looks like what a FF is about and people are complaining. If it's easier to get equips trough Diadem, go get'em.