Diadem Gear > (Alex Norm / Savage, Crafting, PVP, VA, Extreme primals, tome) gear?

[rappa]

I am not against Diadem or the 210 grindfest. I am against the RNG which affect to that gear.
In my opinion as raider, the loot involved in Diadem would be the same as savage/esoteric or a bit inferior.



Check this Body. Mistbreak body > eso body > gordian body.

If you overcapped Accuracy, that body is better than esoteric and a4s. If you need accuracy, you could use an accesory to replace the acc lost and still get better stats.

A raider dragoon spent 2 months to get eso upgrade or get gordian body. A diadem dragoon farmed did one lucky run and got that. A raider dragoon had to learn fights, learn about rotations and rotate upgrades to improve gear. A diadem dragoon, well, went to a few island avoided a few aoes and the RNG bless him.

[Niroken]

I get the raider's perspective that bashing your head against a wall for a piece of candy only to have that candy "given" at random to players would suck. But I don't think it's Diadem's fault though as this is the catch up patch, Alex Savage was so poorly designed to focus on world firsts that the work/reward ratio was imbalanced for general raiders. Even if the challenge was brought down or rewards increased, Savage had very little to experience and lust after. Normal only needed to have the story to fill the requirements of the community, the gear and boss designs should have been entirely different.

[Nekodar]

I am not against Diadem or the 210 grindfest. I am against the RNG which affect to that gear.
In my opinion as raider, the loot involved in Diadem would be the same as savage/esoteric or a bit inferior.



Check this Body. Mistbreak body > eso body > gordian body.

If you overcapped Accuracy, that body is better than esoteric and a4s. If you need accuracy, you could use an accesory to replace the acc lost and still get better stats.

A raider dragoon spent 2 months to get eso upgrade or get gordian body. A diadem dragoon farmed did one lucky run and got that. A raider dragoon had to learn fights, learn about rotations and rotate upgrades to improve gear. A diadem dragoon, well, went to a few island avoided a few aoes and the RNG bless him.

Raider dragoon could have gotten either eso upgrade item, or gordian body, or both, in one try, if RNG bless him.
A diadem dragoon can spend months and never see a suitable piece.

[Sanghelios]

Raider dragoon could have gotten either eso upgrade item, or gordian body, or both, in one try, if RNG bless him.
A diadem dragoon can spend months and never see a suitable piece.

I like this post.

[Ladon]

Raider dragoon could have gotten either eso upgrade item, or gordian body, or both, in one try, if RNG bless him.
A diadem dragoon can spend months and never see a suitable piece.

The good gear is not nearly as rare as some seem to make it out to be. I210 stuff with better than eso/savage gear is not uncommon and even more so as more hard modes are being unlocked.

Not only that but there are no lockouts for this stuff while the lockouts for inferior gear is still in place. The whole situation is just silly.

[Nominous]

A raider dragoon spent 2 months to get eso upgrade or get gordian body. A diadem dragoon farmed did one lucky run and got that. A raider dragoon had to learn fights, learn about rotations and rotate upgrades to improve gear. A diadem dragoon, well, went to a few island avoided a few aoes and the RNG bless him.

Man, who cares though? On some real levels, Savage is okay, but it isn't that fun or imaginative. They're so unsure if they over-tuned it or not that they're hoping all of this new gear pushes the clear rate higher (for NA). There's not much satisfaction to be gotten other than the bragging rights of beating a raid that a lot of people agree was poorly designed. Bragging rights which you already had for months now if you even had any 210 gear left side. I was surprised to see how few people hadn't even gotten 210 accessories this deep into the patch.

Not to mention, we need more variance in the game, that actually feels rewarding. Right now, the most rewarding battle content we've got is Savage, and... what, EX Primals? I'm all for another thing that I can do to get gear, aside from boring tome grinding or beating the snot out of Savage once a week. This is content that has potential to have longevity in some sense, and I couldn't possibly understand why anyone would be against having more ways to get gear they want.

Oh, and I even forgot the fact that this content is coming at a time where we're about to have a major change in gear. Diadem gear is going to be garbage once materia slots are on raid/tome gear. I seriously doubt they're going to go through the effort of making materia slotted gear in 3.3 Diadem. If they do, then MAYBE people have an argument on their hands. If not, a Diablo like system in an MMO is GREAT.

[zosia]

Raider dragoon could have gotten either eso upgrade item, or gordian body, or both, in one try, if RNG bless him.
A diadem dragoon can spend months and never see a suitable piece.

And you are defending diadem loot why? Should the most powerful gear in the game be left to the worst type of RNG?

[rappa]

I am agree we need variance. At this moment, Diadem is the best way to equip your char with the best gear. Also you have access to materia V, crafts materials, raw and other kinds of stuff.

[Fevelle]

And you are defending diadem loot why? Should the most powerful gear in the game be left to the worst type of RNG?

Because it's an alternative to raid gearing.

If people are ALREADY complaining with a lot of RNG, imagine what they would do if SQUEX removed the RNG.

[Kimimoto]

To the people defending the 210 gear in The Diadem, why do you need this gear? Is it going to help you clear A3S/A4S? If it is great. I highly doubt that's the case for most people though, so why dilute current 2.0 BiS with The Diadem RNG system?

Not to mention the main focus of doing hunts now in 3.1 is to get Eso upgrades for 3,000 seals. What's the point of doing that when you could probably get a i210 piece in Diadem that is as good or better than i210 Eso gear in the same amount of time?

I'm all for having Void Ark give out Eso upgrades, gear in the game really doesn't matter anymore. On the other hand since gear doesn't really matter anymore, do you really need this gear? Does it have to be amazing? Is it worth keeping this loot system and making Alex Savage gear,Eso gear, the new Void Ark gear, Crafted Gear worth that much less?