Diadem Gear > (Alex Norm / Savage, Crafting, PVP, VA, Extreme primals, tome) gear?

[iambanana]

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i stop reading the post right there, if you not see one by yourself, STOP JUDGING. image can be photoshopped etc etc


its amaze me how people make a thread for every little problem thats not even verified by himself.


and whats wrong with grinding to get a better gear? is it any different than bashing your head over and over again in savage? for me its just a same thing, you spend your time and effort to get your gear as your goal, its just one with bashing your head, and one is wait for 4 month and grind the gear with zergling and deal with heavy RNG. its just a preference.

adding one more point, SE need to give the head starter more incentive than just BRAGGING RIGHTS, while i170 crafting gear have a benefit as gil maker (easier to do macroed crafting, more time effective crafting) if you do the headstart for i170 gear.

for i210 savage gear the incentive is just bragging right, so people who have savage/ do savage for gear, always not counting the 4 month head start is not a big deal.

[Whocareswhatmynameis]

and whats wrong with grinding to get a better gear? is it any different than bashing your head over and over again in savage? for me its just a same thing, you spend your time and effort to get your gear as your goal, its just one with bashing your head, and one is wait for 4 month and grind the gear with zergling and deal with heavy RNG. its just a preference.

I would agree with you but the lvl 210 gear from diadem isn't rare by any stretch of the imagination. I went to diadem for just under an hour and saw 7-8 pieces of 210 gear drop, some had crappy bonus stats but most didn't. I love the creators of this game, and I do enjoy playing it. But the devs have no idea what they are doing when it comes to endgame.

[Kosmos992k]

I would agree with you but the lvl 210 gear from diadem isn't rare by any stretch of the imagination. I went to diadem for just under an hour and saw 7-8 pieces of 210 gear drop, some had crappy bonus stats but most didn't. I love the creators of this game, and I do enjoy playing it. But the devs have no idea what they are doing when it comes to endgame.

Diadem is end-game? First I've heard of that. I thought it was an accessible level 60 spammable, farmable, open world grind-fest supporting combat and gathering - or did I miss something?

[MasamuneBranford]

i stop reading the post right there, if you not see one by yourself, STOP JUDGING. image can be photoshopped etc etc

It's like I didn't put a ? in the subject line? Kind of a question topic.

[Sicno]

i stop reading the post right there, if you not see one by yourself, STOP JUDGING. image can be photoshopped etc etc

I guess you also stopped reading the title at some point, since it ends with a question mark, making this a question and not an opinion. He's saying he heard that and asking us if it's true or not.

Back on topic, the Diardem gear COULD be better but it's way too random. There are multiple layers of RNG involved. First for a NM to appear, then for it to drop something for the job(s) you're looking for, then it has to be on a part of the body you're looking for, then the stats distribution is random, then you have to roll on it (unless you're going on a premade and use lootmaster or you call stuff). If mindless zerging for hours and hours is your thing then go on.

[Iagainsti]

Back on topic, the Diardem gear COULD be better but it's way too random. There are multiple layers of RNG involved. First for a NM to appear, then for it to drop something for the job(s) you're looking for, then it has to be on a part of the body you're looking for, then the stats distribution is random, then you have to roll on it (unless you're going on a premade and use lootmaster or you call stuff). If mindless zerging for hours and hours is your thing then go on.

Ever play Diablo 1, 2, or 3 amigo?

[rappa]

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My static cleared a4s 9 weeks ago. One hour inside diadem nm and we changed a scholar chess with crit and a 210 dex ring with crit better than eso ring. Effort? zero, nothing, just killing crabs, gorilas and rex's. It's a mindless grind.


SE is doing bad if they let diadem pink gear with good rolls can be better than gordian or eso.

I am not disagree with letting non-raiders get coat and twines from Void Ark or huntings. They will get the same gear as a Raider but 3 months after. I am disappointed when 2 months of effort inside Alex savage to clear it, is not rewarded when in an hour or a few, spamming 3-4 buttons you could get better gear.

How can you promote Alex Savage clears if you are gifting gears without effort?

Diadem remember me "timeless island" in WoW. Alters and absent players could join to the game, obtaining a lower tier of items, let them to raid LFR. Then, they have the choice to keep that gear or try to get a better tier or the best tier.

what do you get in FFXIV? Same items as raiders or also betters. You didn't kill Living liquid, you didn't kill "manipulator". Just you facerolled NM and Star monsters.

I want to know. What is the point to raid 3.2 if in 3.3 we would know Diadem v2 could have the same gear or better? Take 3 months break, back to 3.3 and LF diadem "i want free gear".

[Kosmos992k]

I want to know. What is the point to raid 3.2 if in 3.3 we would know Diadem v2 could have the same gear or better? Take 3 months break, back to 3.3 and LF diadem "i want free gear".

I'm sorry, how does any of that invalidate your achievement of clearing A4S? Your post comes across as someone who is basically upset that non-raiders and less capable players will get similar gear to yours by other means. Isn't that something that's essentially a feature of vertical progression?

But aside from that, why is this even still a discussion to be had, this has happened every other patch since 2.1.

I don't know if it's your intention (I doubt that it is), but complaining about this now just comes across as being a bit elitist about high end gear and a bit condescending towards non-raiders.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

My static cleared a4s 9 weeks ago. One hour inside diadem nm and we changed a scholar chess with crit and a 210 dex ring with crit better than eso ring. Effort? zero, nothing, just killing crabs, gorilas and rex's. It's a mindless grind.


SE is doing bad if they let diadem pink gear with good rolls can be better than gordian or eso.

Eh, even the twines coming from Void Ark and Hunts is kinda shitty. No need to deal with annoying Livid Liquid, just wait a few months and you can get it with less time invested and less effort. I could've just unsubbed and come back to easier to obtain twines instead of banging my head against the wall with my whole static on A3 for quite a while. There is no incentive to do Savage now, not even for bragging rights as some say as the sole reason people do Savage (hint: it's not the main reason, else we would've seen more interest in Coil Savage). Now that we are onto AS4, I see not much reason to do it if we can just wait for the relic, heh.

[Kosmos992k]

Eh, even the twines coming from Void Ark and Hunts is kinda shitty. No need to deal with annoying Livid Liquid, just wait a few months and you can get it with less time invested and less effort. I could've just unsubbed and come back to easier to obtain twines instead of banging my head against the wall with my whole static on A3 for quite a while. There is no incentive to do Savage now, not even for bragging rights as some say as the sole reason people do Savage (hint: it's not the main reason, else we would've seen more interest in Coil Savage).

Isn't there an achievement + title, and a mount or minion that is exclusive to Savage Alex? Wouldn't those be the incentive you speak of?